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   Message 176 of 597   
   Clave to stderr2@backpacker.com   
   Re: Remind us: Why did the Bush administ   
   29 Nov 03 06:06:28   
   
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   From: ClaviusFairAndBalanced@cablespeed.com   
      
   "Bill Bonde ( the oblique allusion in lieu of the frontal attack )"   
    wrote in message   
   news:3FC8310C.23E7A7ED@backpacker.com...   
   >   
   > Clave wrote:   
      
   <...>   
      
   > > He didn't claim that Saudi Arabia was "responsible" either.  That was   
   *your*   
   > > strawman.   
   > >   
   > Nope. This is where the comments about Saudi come from: "Oh, you mean   
   > like in Saudi Arabia where all but one of the 9/11 terrorists came   
   > from?"   
      
   Let's put that in context, hmmkay?   
      
       Bonzo:  A free Iraq is good for the US and good for Arabs   
               who can see a better way in that than the endless   
               strong man dictatorships they have had or the fantasy   
               of Sharia extremism.   
      
       Stan:   Oh, you mean like in Saudi Arabia where all but one   
               of the 9/11 terrorists came from?   
      
       Bonzo:  You're boring. Try to come up with something that   
               hasn't been shot down in flames a thousand bloody   
               times.   
      
       Clave:  What's been shot down?   
      
       Bonzo:  The stupid claim that Saudi Arabia is at fault because   
               al Qaeda chose to use mostly Saudi al Qaeda operatives   
               in the 9/11 attacks.   
      
   Stan never claimed that.   
      
   It's a classic, if rather stupid, even for strawmen, Bonzo strawman.   
      
      
   > He then asked   
      
   No, that was me.  You should pay closer attention to whom you're responding.   
      
      
   > what was shot down and I explained it. No strawman argument from me.   
      
   All you shot was your own crank.   
      
   Jim   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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