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   mcs to All   
   In as littleas 40 years look what has ha   
   03 May 05 14:06:07   
   
   From: mcs@yahoo.com   
      
    misquitos, global warming,terror, and more   
      
      
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   > >   
   > >   
   > > > Unless you think everything is one big conspiracy and circle and we   
   make   
   > > > wars to fuel jobs. and accept violence without doing much about it   
   .....which might be feasible by the way,.... but   
   > unless you really   
   > > believe that, .maybe you can read a string of connections our  free   
   press   
   > > don't seem to be able to go over  which is very disheartning and sad.   
   There are getting to be more and more place around the world , where US is   
   their role model NOT to be like. Life   
   > for many people is about learning to ignore what you are seeing. .The   
   people who are most successful? Are the people who can suck up pollution ,   
   illness, name calling, paying high prices, while getting a good education   
   and not being a victim from broken families or violence.Ultimately one can   
   assume, the people who are most successful might be a, very lucky or b,   
   uncaring and unsensitive where what goes on around them never affects them ,   
   or c, they have learned to block the negatives out. US has learned to block   
   the negatives out and I don't see how it has helped us.   
      
   . I never   
   > ever   
   > > thought it had to be this damaging and dangerous to just to make ends   
   meet   
   > > or surive. in this life in USA especially in some cities . We were   
   conned by a salesman for the rich   
   > and oil in the MTV generation who has done absolutely nothing but make   
   things worse.. I constantly see others laugh at someoen else   
   > if they don't meet their expectations of what is attractive  is because I   
   assume we are a nation where MTV and looks creates idiots like bush as role   
   models.. We elected   
   > someone who has made it even worse to be an American then many have   
   imagined   
   > before. Yes its worse sometimes in other places but just think of what has   
   > gone on in as few as 40 years.When I grew up outside of city I never had   
   to   
   > worry about air pollution or when or how to exercise   or suburban   
   flight,,   or ticks that carried disease  or damage from sun because   
   > of ozone depletion, or the fish I was eating that has mercury or water I   
   was   
   > drinking might be bad I never had to buy bottled water.. Does anyone see   
   how any or all this is connected?  I never had to worry about aids, or   
   asthma, or   
   > depression , or crime, I never say helicopter flying overhead targeting   
   another criminal , now its weekly, , I never had to worry about  west Nile   
   or misquitos or my dad losing his job   
   > due to 20 million illegals  But in a period of only 30 years which is   
   > nothing in the whole scheme of life , I like many people are fearing   
   crrime,   
   > ( 1 in 2 families affected, 1 in 3 women will be beat many to   
   > unconsciouness) and have   seen  the dispairity of the rich and poor go   
   from   
   > one percent controlling 20 percent of nations wealth to close to fifty or   
   > more,  fear of gettting depressed, have to fear the sun  from ozone   
   > depletion and misquitos now carry malaria and west nile , and soon bird   
   flu and what If I eat the wrong fish?   
   > if I should eat fish , or what meds of 30 hyped daily for asthma or   
   allergies  I need to  to take for   
   > but of course I assume people think its best to think this is normal  for   
   30 years time.  Bush and friends are rich for lifetimes to come while US is   
   a crime pit. often with unbreathable air . and  its not becuase of his   
   policies any of this   
   > environmental or social concerns  are happening is it? . . 40 years, and   
   of course we have to   
   > worry about bills and taxes and terrorism too. I assume US dealing with   
   problems has gotten it somewhere? Where press looks awayat the most   
   important ones? You think I give a rats ass about Michael Jackson? . One has   
   to ask is this the   
   > natural progression in the USA when things actually have gotten worse?   
   Where   
   > people are mean to each other daily and its every person for himself?   
   Where   
   > millions of people are going to die alone , sick or without hope and   
   > especially mentally ill ( one in four) or a victim to violence especially   
   women.. Where experts churn the numbers to   
   > beneift the facts they want to play out like experts that will tell a jury   
   > almost anything they are paid to say and we believe it? .When I use to   
   grow up, when someone ws murdered we would go over the crime scene for a   
   week. Now it happens soo often its just sentence on the news. A persons life   
   wiped out and we bring millions more without hope here without enough jobs   
   and we don't go over this? What happens? They spin the numbers and said five   
   years ago violent crime was down?  And you think we trust that mess?  We are   
   a nation   
   > with no role models as people are basically just trying to survive from   
   > being a victim from control. .It use to be you invest in stocks and you   
   could hope the ceos did all they could to help the stock grow. Now the idea   
   is to attract your money so market makers and hedge funds ( richest percent)   
   can trade against you often a few points either way, trading way before   
   average investors knows anything . No one trusts each other and if the last   
   40 years are any   
   > indication and our leaders are any indication its perfectily   
   understandable   
   > why people are this way.To weigh some advantages.... computer and   
   information and food has gotten better.   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   > > > you see what Bush did to America. ? Lets get past appearances for a   
   > second.   
   > > We   
   > > > all know bush is a great salesman.   
   > > > Lets see we   
   > > > pay for lost health and health costs as 1/2 population breathing   
   > unhealthy   
   > > > air, because of policies such as his belief of  NO Global warming, and   
   > > > support of oil and coal that goes beyond  sane rational often allowing   
   > the   
   > > > companies that supported him with campaign donations , dictate policy   
   > > while  polluting and get   
   > > > tax breaks , and  making the rest of us dependent on more of the same   
   in   
   > > > the future and unprepared for alternatives and making us pay for lost   
   > > > health. Then we  are decried for not being able to afford health cost   
   > > coverage. We pay 300 billions to fight terrorists  who grew up reading   
   > > > hate  whose oil regimes   
   > > > we and Especially Bush unduly supported (paid for a nuke free city in   
   > Saudi Arabia)  and get rewarded with even higher   
   > > > oil prices as the   
   > > > religous leader of same country says to fight Americans in Iraq EVEN   
   > NOW..   
   > > Somehow this really can't be happening but sadly it is.   
   > > > Saudis get away with bombing us, and sabotaging our economy  at the   
   same   
   > > time and we have to  pay for their actions even though its they who have   
   > > most to lose if terrorists win and its they who fed their loyal subjects   
   > > this poison to begin with. In fact our own govt made legislation that   
   said   
   > we   
   > > couldn't sue Saudis for actions of 9/11. Who ended up paying victims?   
   US?   
   > Who ended up fighting the wars and paying for it? The US. Who then gets to   
      
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