XPost: phl.media, pa.politics   
   From: kybyrd@pobox.upenn.edu   
      
   On Mon, 06 Feb 2006 22:18:26 -0500, Art Clemons  wrote:   
   >Perhaps I'm misunderstanding this, but it seems that an official from the   
   >Justice Department actually testified that under some circumstances, the   
   >president can order an individual shot.   
      
   Re: shooting suspect individuals.   
   What makes you think this hasn't happened already and happened all the time   
   during the Cold War, for instance?   
      
   Wasn't/isn't it true that part of the agreement ending the Cuban Missile   
   Crisis concerned whether we would go on trying to kill Castro   
   because we had already tried(to kill him), for instance?   
      
   > Please note that there is no   
   >reliance on exigent circumstances.  That means that one of the posters on   
   >usenet could be ordered shot as a terrorist and the Bush inJustice   
   >Department would find no problem just as long as the individual shot was   
   >labeled a terrorist.  I then remember Padilla, Guantanamo and the present   
   >warrantless eavesdropping on US citizens and I have to wonder if any rights   
   >will be left when Bush finally decamps.   
      
   Well, at least SOME of us know now and are paying attention to it.   
   How many citizens knew, or cared, when J. Edgar Hoover was running   
   amok doing his thing and having God knows what done to innocent   
   people?!   
      
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