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From: thebeav@yahoo.com
In something more out of a twilight zone.. A dead city of violence and
horrific air quality daily.. every day.. the same hell.. fears of violence
and lost health resound. Doctors and hospitals and satelite hospitals for
test and cancer clinics and three heart and lung centers.
. A gov based on two societies rich and poor. Untill America votes out the
republicans and rich people who don't care about average americans we will
be coopted by more bad people like Bush. who has allowed cities like mine to
breed people who get literally no clean air for months. thanks politicians
for defaulting to harming people to protect corporate powers and energy
companies. Reporters who are coopted by takeovers don't give a shi about
freedom or reporting of truth.
"FACE" wrote in message
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> On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 23:10:22 GMT, in alt.politics.republicans "beav"
> , wrote
>
>>
>>"FACE" wrote in message
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>>> On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 02:51:48 GMT, in alt.politics.republicans "the
>>> beav"
>>> , wrote
>>>
>>>>People in the US don't care about others. Its the wild west in many
>>>>communities where poor people, poverty and pollution collide and still
>>>>illegals and crime and pollution and its affects are totally ignored
>>>
>>>
>>> You don't know shit about pollution.
>>and a one and two
>>what don't I know about pollution that you know?
>>
>
> Above, I wrote my first thought..........
>
> Do you know of, remember, appreciate, what the killer fogs of London in
> the early
> fifties were made of?
whats the point? The important part about pollution is to determine harm
now. If cig smoke killed more people 30 years ago and less people smoke now,
that doesn't negate the damage from cig smoke.
>
> Do you know of, remember, appreciate, that the Cuyahoga River last caught
> fire in
> 1967?
>
> Do you know of, remember, appreciate, that many American waterways used to
> be so
> foul that there were no fish in them, and now are pristine?
Pristine? there are more beach closings in the US now then ever .Do a
search on Google.
>
> Do you know of, remember, appreciate, that in the early sixties the Thames
> River in
> London could only support mudworms and now is home to all kinds of fish
> and
> wildlife?
Some waterways are clean and some are not. To negate the damage from
pollution by comparing how polluted it use to be is not a good analogy.
Why because as I speak millions of people are breathin air that might not be
as bad as 50 years ago, but its making people sicker faster and killen
faster. so shouldn't that be a more important concern? Its amazin how the
people who refuse to see the damages now rationalize. Incidentally in some
ways its worse now but then again, I start playing your game to demphasize
damage now by saying how bad it was then to now.
>
> Do you know of, remember, appreciate, that at one time part of the morning
> news in
> America was the Strontium 90 count of the milk for children?
>
> Have you ever lived in a city where steel smelting was going on 24/7 and
> everything
> within a coupla miles would be covered with a black sticky grime in a day?
I live in a city where people are meanspirited, where there are thousands of
shootings a year (thats thousands), there are over 50,000 prescriptions for
respitatory medications and we have the worse asthma and asthma related
deaths then every city in the US. We have more days without good air then
practically most of the people in the US, . Look up our air now , go to epa
website. We had good air for 2 full days out of 60. Do you know the
ramifications for disability and lives lost for people who live here who
have to pay for health care and their overall health compared to people who
get clean air? Do you? Have you ever compared the quality of life of people
who lived in clean air to those that don't? If we cleaned our air now in
some regions only to have more people suffer in others, whats the point? /We
are not doing enough now , and in fact we are literally killing kids . I
don't think it I know it .
>
> Have you ever driven into a higher altitude city and seen the upper
> stories of
> buildings obscured by pink smog on early summer mornings?
>
> Have you ever had a car finish ruined by acid rain?
Have you ever seen babies cry more in polluted cities compared to unpolluted
cities. or people having less sleep or having to consume and pay for asthma
meds thru no fault of themselves? Have you ever seen people grasp for
breath solely because of the air pollution and if people get sick and die
faster in pollution , ever see any person or politician in areas more
affected care to correlate the point this is happening more and do
something about it? Ever see a population get sick more often and not have
reporters ever report it or politicians not care to answer your concerns? -
And get this the people who suffered from it don't know why often because
its not reported? There are millions of people who don't know why believe
it or not because of people like you who actually mitigate the harm by not
looking for stats and comparisons to people with clean air now, to show
harm now and instead give worthless information about past pollution.
Unless you can show harm based on comparisons with people who get clean air
your sentimental look back in the past is meaningless.This is today and we
have more co2, cars and congestion and we have ways to measure the pollution
but of course not accurate ways to judge harm unfortunately .The people who
actually get pollution based on epa own measurements which measure the
pollution , are not a concern to most of US press.
I can tell you the outlook for teens and families who have kids who get
their exercise in dirty air like ours has to be studied and followed up
upon.
From the parts we already know from damages the consequences seem to be
ominous. These are real billboards on our nations highways.. I swear to you.
this is
now the mentality of corporate America: control , based on being
able to sell no matter what it is or to who
> its one thing propoganda, its another to give kids no clean air, set them
> up
> for dysfunction, then complain its their lazy ass for the cause. I call it
> murder. they have legitimized murder
>
>
>
> It seems like silence is the best answer to real problems, that protect
> the
> rich . The rich don't have to pay attention to real issues from you and me
> because, they often control the choices for the answers.
> I don't want to get into the religious angle but as for control and power
> ,
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