XPost: phl.media, pa.politics, pa.general   
   XPost: ca.general   
   From: kybyrd@pobox.upenn.edu   
      
   On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 19:49:19 GMT, dfte  wrote:   
      
   >no where Karen have I seen negative changes as much as in the NE.   
      
   Just read some history. Don't you have a lot of free   
   time???   
      
   It might help you understand how recent "negative changes" that   
   you are so worried about are nothing compared to living 100-150   
   years ago before there was even dependable electrical service   
   for instance. You or I can't even imagine living in that   
   kind of environment. I mean we freak out when we lose   
   power in storms. Imagine not having electric power as a way-of-life!   
   Where if you were lucky all you did have was gas for lighting.   
      
   > Many   
   >people from midwest talk as if none of this is happening.   
      
   Given that I have friends in  Nebraska I can tell you that   
   their frame of reference is indeed different than our   
   own but that doesn't mean that they are free from   
   modern problems like drug addiction. It's just that they   
   don't smoke crack, they use crystal meth and alcohol.   
   And the "decent world" you think exists out there is   
   illusionary.   
      
   > I get email from   
   >peopole saying people treat others with respect,   
      
   I've been there! More than once. That "politeness" is just   
   PHONEY. They back bite. They're nasty and they cover   
   it all by parking their butts in church on Sunday   
   thinking that will fix every 10 Commandment they   
   break during the week.   
      
   > there is little crime   
      
   That's partially because there are less people. Steve, there are   
   less people in the entire state of Nebraska than there   
   are in the city of Phila.   
      
   > and   
   >no pollution   
      
   You haven't been there, have you? There's plenty of   
   pollution. It's created by massive agriculture i.e   
   fertilizers, etc. Pig farms with pools of stinking   
   pig shit. And coal mining on a scale   
   that you can barely wrap your mind around.   
   The coal trains going from Colorado through   
   the panhandle section of Nebraska are miles   
   long. 2-3 and more miles long.   
      
   > and farming has come back big time.   
      
   Sure. If you're Con-Agra!   
      
   You are being very romantic about an area that shouldn't   
   be romantic about.   
      
   > There are two entirely   
   >different worlds going on.   
      
   Go there and then we'll talk about it.   
   Don't depend on liars you are emailing.   
      
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