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   "Deecell Bathery"  wrote in message   
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   > "paul"  wrote in message   
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   >> nobody said the religious right didn't have any influence. i think larry   
   >> said that the loonie fringe didn't have control of anything. thats a   
   >> little different. in my experience, the vast majority of the 'religious   
   >> right', or the religious left for that matter, may have strong views   
   >> influenced by their religion, but are not fringe, or loonie or neo   
   >> anything.   
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   > The religious left largely gets into politics involving care for the   
   > homeless, the sick, minorities, and many times falls into the secular   
   > category by supporting the seperation of church and state. They are pretty   
   > disorganized as a whole and by comparison to the right have little   
   > influence.   
      
   lol   
      
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   > The religious right is well organized funded, and powerful. They mainly   
   > fall on the side of weakening first amendment protections and religious   
   > freedom. They do also care for the sick and hungry, but they take a   
   > backseat to their attacks on the constitutional rights of the citizens in   
   > this country.   
   >   
   > Here's a challenge for you, since you will probably argue that I am wrong   
   > about the right. Name one law they advocate that protects our freedoms   
   > rather than restrict them.   
      
   the 'right to life'. specifically, they support the right of very young   
   human beings to not be murdered.   
      
   as a christian conservative, i also support free speech in virtually every   
   case. i believe in allowing low lifes the right to burn our flag. i support   
   my right to call them low lifes for doing so. we generally support our   
   second amendment rights. i am big on the 4th amendment too. in fact, i can   
   think of no rights bestowed by our constitution that i and most religious   
   conservatives do NOT actively support. can you?   
      
      
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   > One can easily point out laws that the religious left advocate that   
   > protect us from infringements on our rights.   
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   >> mccain severely damaged his relations with the conservatives (not just   
   >> religious conservatives) in years past. he has spent the last several   
   >> years trying to repair those badly burned bridges. the evidence i've seen   
   >> suggests that he has been somewhat effective in doing so. whether it will   
   >> be enuff,   
   >   
   > It says volumes that you believe he should be mending fences with the   
   > religious right that he alienated and dropping the moderates he courted   
   > before.   
      
   i haven't decided who i will support for president. i speak only as an   
   observer, at this point.   
      
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   > Many conservatives would say he is on the wrong side.   
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   i can think of no politician who is not on the wrong side of some if not   
   many issues. if you know of one who is on the right side 100%, PLEASE share   
   that with us.   
      
   paul   
      
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