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   From: lesliesethhammond@yahoo.com   
      
   "Deecell Bathery"  wrote in message   
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   > "Larry in AZ"  wrote in message   
   > news:Xns98DA872C4D3EAthefrogprince@69.28.173.184...   
   >> Waiving the right to remain silent, Michelle Steiner   
   >>    
   >> said:   
   >>   
   >>> In article <9062a$45d749d8$45035f0c$16791@msgid.meganewsservers.com>,   
   >>>  "Stan de SD"  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> I'm an atheist, and I see no reason to legalize or force anyone to   
   >>>> accept, gay marriage.   
   >>>   
   >>> In other words, you don't see any reason for marriage.  After all, if   
   >>> gay marriage has no reason to be legal, then no other marriage has a   
   >>> reason to be legal.  And if no one should be forced to accept gay   
   >>> marriage, no one should be forced to accept any other marriage.   
   >>   
   >> Here's the deal...   
   >>   
   >> "Marriage," as known throughout most of human history has been between a   
   >> man   
   >> and a woman.  Unless perverted by some religious sect or cult, that's   
   >> also   
   >> meant one man and one woman.   
   >>   
   >> Gays deserve equal protection and rights, but let's call it something   
   >> else...   
   >   
   > Marriage is a contract, nothing more. At least as far as our government   
   > should be concerned. By supporting a religious view of marriage (which is   
   > what you are saying they should do), our government is acting   
   > unconstitutionally.   
      
   Nonsense.  Marriage is older than any organized religion - by far....   
      
      
   > Should the government be allowed to regulate a contract between two   
   > consenting adults based on sexual orientation?   
      
   Yes.  Clearly.   
      
   Homosexuality serves no useful purpose for a society that relies upon   
   self-perpetuation as a species.  They're misfits, at best.   
      
   > How about religion and race?   
      
   How about avoidance of strawmen?   
      
      
   > They used to but those were struck down. What makes gender any different?   
      
   Explain to us all the beauty and human dignity involved in felching.  Leave   
   out nothing, OK?   
      
      
   >   
   > What if one is transgendered? If one goes by genetics there are already   
   > men getting married to genetic men in this country. Does the absence or   
   > presence of certain gender specific private parts make one a man or a   
   > woman? Hermaphrodites and the sexually ambiguous can get a license and   
   > marry either sex if they declare themselves one sex or another. Can a man   
   > marry another man if he just declares himself a woman?   
      
   Is it news to you that there are exceptions to every rule?   
      
      
   >   
   > If we are truly secular, the government should not be making these   
   > decisions and marrying people according to a religious view. Maybe the   
   > government should get out of the marriage business entirely and let anyone   
   > have a civil union that wants.   
      
   Marriages can be performed by more than clergy.  Many are married by gummint   
   judges.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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