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   From: anonymous@anonymous.com   
      
   "Seth Hammond"  wrote in message   
   news:541ib1F1ta3ocU1@mid.individual.net...   
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   > "kompressor"  wrote in message   
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   >> Seth Hammond wrote:   
   >>> "kompressor"  wrote in message   
   >>> news:7FJCh.229391$_92.24035@fe05.news.easynews.com...   
   >>>> Seth Hammond wrote:   
   >>>>> "kompressor"  wrote in message   
   >>>>> news:lFFCh.283095$5l2.95252@fe02.news.easynews.com...   
   >>>>>> Larry (Scratch) wrote:   
   >>>>>>> Rat Patrol wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> Michelle Steiner wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> In article ,   
   >>>>>>>>>  Larry in AZ  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> I've always supported Israel, but for practical reasons, not   
   >>>>>>>>>> superstitious...   
   >>>>>>>>> And the religious right supports Israel for religious reasons.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Oh no!   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> We can't have that!   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Outlaw it now!   
   >>>>>>> the fascists, socialists and communists are trying.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>> So true, so true...   
   >>>>> Er, reason and belief don't belong in the same sentence....   
   >>>>>   
   >>>> You "believe" in capital punishment for murder, or reason that it is a   
   >>>> deterrent?   
   >>>   
   >>> I reason that it has had *perfect* deterrent effect.(100%)   
   >>   
   >> I BELIEVE you are correct!   
   >>   
   >> See how that works, both seamlessly integrated - reason and belief.   
   >   
   > If you were a reasonable man you wouldn't have to "believe".  I could have   
   > also been wrong, so your belief would be misplaced.   
   >   
   > Not that you know it, but I AM correct.  Not ONE criminal given capital   
   > punishment has killed again....   
   >   
   > No punishment given for any crime ever has been more efficient.  What a   
   > recidivism record, eh wot?   
      
   You simplify the situation too much.  There are instances of people being   
   convicted and then killed for the crime of murder (thereby supposedly ending   
   the murders and any need for further investigation) and then later it turns   
   out that the because the wrong person was killed, the other murders   
   continued.  It's conceivable that sometimes the person wrongly convicted had   
   information that actually could have been used to find the true killer.   
   There have also been numerous instances where someone was killed and their   
   relatives and friends then started killing thereby increasing the number of   
   murders.   
      
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