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   From: lesliesethhammond@yahoo.com   
      
   "mrmcafee" <"(mrmcafee)nospam"@cox.net> wrote in message   
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   > Phxbrd wrote:   
   >> "mrmcafee" <"(mrmcafee)nospam"@cox.net> wrote in message   
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   >>> Phxbrd wrote:   
   >>>> "mrmcafee" <"(mrmcafee)nospam"@cox.net> wrote in message   
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   >>>>> Phxbrd wrote:   
   >>>>>>> Yeah, but you're nuts.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> What matters isn't what percentage you pay, it's how much you have   
   >>>>>>> left over after you pay. The pain burden needs to be equitable, not   
   >>>>>>> the actual tax burden. The top 10 percenters have PLENTY left over   
   >>>>>>> even if that pay up to 40% of their adjusted gross. That's not true   
   >>>>>>> for the other 90 percenters.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Oh, those "loopholes" and deductions you complain about? They are a   
   >>>>>>> very effective tool of the government's to influence the economy.   
   >>>>>>> Like for example helping a new industry get established by offering   
   >>>>>>> people a tax credit for a portion of what they spend on it. Like for   
   >>>>>>> solar energy for example.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> But you claim to be a Libertarian, so we understand. You're just   
   >>>>>>> nuts, that's all.   
   >>>>>> "Flat tax" seems to involve a complexity that your so-called brain   
   >>>>>> can't encompass.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> I'll try to keep this as simple as I possibly can(dumb it down):  A   
   >>>>>> simple flat tax might prove to be as low as, oh, let's say 5%.  With   
   >>>>>> me so far? (That's 1% times 5).   
   >>>>> The legislature was proposing less than 3%. Just enough to keep the   
   >>>>> jails open and the cops on the road.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>  In practice, someone earning 100K per year would pay $5,000.00 in   
   >>>>>> flat tax.  That leaves them the complement of $95,000.00 untaxed.   
   >>>>>> Get it? Now let's consider someone as poor-ass as you.  If you   
   >>>>>> somehow managed to have gross earning of a whole 10K all by yourself,   
   >>>>>> you'd pay a measly $500.00.  See how that works?  Pay attention now   
   >>>>>> as I sum this up for you:  Each of you will have paid the same   
   >>>>>> percentage of your income! Isn't that amazing?  See how simple and   
   >>>>>> equitable a flat tax could be?   
   >>>>> Simple? Yes. Even you could figure your own tax. Whether or not you   
   >>>>> could address the envelope properly to get it to the DOR is another   
   >>>>> matter.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> The question is, will that $500.00 be missed more of less than the   
   >>>>> $5000.00 your upper middle class tax payer had to cough up? Will that   
   >>>>> $1,000,000.00 paid up by the wealthy developer in Paradise Valley be   
   >>>>> missed as much as the $500.00 will be? After all, the wealthy   
   >>>>> developer has $19,000,000 more with which to salve his wounds. The guy   
   >>>>> that paid $500.00 just has $9,500. That's not enough to live on   
   >>>>> properly. That $500.00 represents 2 months worth of beans and rice.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   (A   
   >>>>>> sliding scale of tax liability is built right in!)   
   >>>>> But it is not proportionate to the "value" of the taxes paid by each   
   >>>>> group. What has to be equitable isn't the tax amount paid, nor even   
   >>>>> the tax percentage but the tax "pain".   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> Now say this back to me to prove you understood the simple concept,   
   >>>>>> but if you can't, I'll understand...   
   >>>>> No one expects you to understand the progressive income tax theory.   
   >>>>> You're a Libertarian after all.   
   >>>> I give up.  Your bumbling stupidity is too profound.  I don't know how   
   >>>> you find your way out of bed in the morning.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Ask the first person you see to explain the simple concept of "A   
   >>>> sliding scale of tax liability is built right in!".   
   >>>   
   >>> Ask the next billionaire you happen to meet if $500.00 is too much to   
   >>> pay for a good lunch.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> Point?   
   >>   
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   >   
   > Never mind.   
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