XPost: az.general, az.politics, az.internet   
   From: michelle@michelle.org   
      
   In article ,   
    Arizona Willie  wrote:   
      
   > >> If a security camera shows a white guy robbing a 7 - 11 why would you   
   > >> stop Asians or African Americans?   
   > >>   
   > >> Common sense says when you know the criminals you are looking for   
   > >> belong to a certain ethnic group then you should look among that   
   > >> group.   
   > >   
   > > So if the victim identifies the assailant as being African American,   
   > > the police should stop every African American person they encounter?   
   > >   
   > > If the victim can't provide anything about the assailant, why would   
   > > the police stop only African Americans?   
   > ============   
   > If the victim identified the assailant as African American HE DID PROVIDE   
   > SOMETHING ABOUT THE ASSAILANT. Since he identified the race of the   
   > assailant there is no logical reason to question people who don't belong   
   > to that racial group.   
      
   There is also no reason to question someone just because he is of that   
   race, and that is the point.   
      
   > > Are you really saying that every Hispanic person in Arizona is an   
   > > illegal alien unless he or she can prove otherwise?   
   > ============   
   > I know you're not the brightest bulb on the tree   
      
   True, just one of the brightest.   
      
   > but even you  know I didn't say that. Quit trying to put words in my   
   > mouth.   
      
   Your hysterical rantings lead a reasonable person to believe that you just   
   may believe that.   
      
   > Again you're trying to put words in my mouth. I never said I wsnted the   
   > police to be like the KGB.   
      
   Not in so many words, but you are advocating policies that would make them   
   just like the KGB.   
      
   > However, if you fit the description of the criminal there is no reason   
   > for you to be upset about being asked to prove who you are and where you   
   > were when the crime was committed.   
      
   For specific and accurate descriptions, yes, but not for vague descriptions   
   like skin color or gender, to use two examples.   
      
   > You would scream bloody murder if you found out a cop DIDN'T stop and   
   > question a person who fit the description of a rapist and then it turned   
   > out that person WAS the rapist. You'd want that cops badge.   
      
   No, I do not expect the police to stop every man they see after a rape has   
   been reported.   
      
   > If someone commits a crime and witnesses or video make the person out to   
   > be a white guy with blonde hair and wearing jeans and a white t shirt and   
   > the cop is driving along and sees a white guy with blonde hair wearing   
   > jeans and a white t shirt in the vicinity of the crime or in an area   
   > where he could have committed the crime and walked to the location it is   
   > elementary logic that that person COULD BE THE BAD GUY.   
      
   And if the witnesses say it was a white person, and could provide no   
   further information?  Should every white person in the area be stopped and   
   questioned?   
      
   > The cop would be derelict in his duty if he didn't question him. Just as   
   > he should stop and question you if you fit the description of a woman who   
   > just committed a crime.   
      
   But if the only description is that is is a woman, should I be stopped and   
   questioned?   
      
   > And, in my opinion, YOU and people like you are the danger to this   
   > country. You turn a blind eye to an invasion of people who are here to   
   > steal jobs from people. The commit crimes coming here, they commit crimes   
   > working, but you just ignore that.   
      
   No, I don't turn a blind eye; I look for fair and reasonable solutions,   
   devoid of hysteria and bigotry.   
      
   > Most hispanics are conservative and anti-abortion so you surely   
   > don't think they are going to vote Democratic do you?   
      
   Obama got the majority of the Hispanic vote.  Do you think Hispanics are   
   going to vote Republican, considering that the GOP is so anti-Hispanic?   
      
   > Strangely the hispanics believe their culture is superior to every other   
   > culture in the world   
      
   That makes them little to no different from just about all other cultures.   
      
   > and they try to recreate their home town when they come here. They don't   
   > even try to assimilate, unlike previous groups of immigrants.   
      
      
   Gee, you never heard of Chinatown, Japantown, Little Italy, Williamsburg   
   (in Brooklyn), and the like?   
      
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