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   Not if they're left-wing democrats.  All those bitches are ugly.   
    Ugly women give it up to get laid anyway.  They don't need to   
   be drunk but they pretend they are.   
      
   For four decades she has imparted wisdom to millions of women.   
      
   But agony aunt Irma Kurtz yesterday faced a backlash over her   
   latest advice – saying women should not get drunk around men   
   because it puts them at risk of being raped.   
      
   Miss Kurtz, who has worked as an agony aunt at Cosmopolitan   
   magazine since 1973, claimed that the onus was on women to   
   protect themselves against attack.   
      
   She said those who ‘get drunk with the boys’ become incapable of   
   defending themselves because ‘drunkenness tears that away. It   
   really is carelessness to lose your self-defence’.   
      
   She called rape ‘an assault with a weapon’, adding: ‘You really   
   have to be a little bit defensive when you’re around people who   
   are stupid and armed.’   
      
   The 78-year-old’s pronouncement was seized upon by anti-rape   
   campaigners, who labelled her advice ‘totally irresponsible’ and   
   called it ‘misguided, unhelpful and judgmental’.   
      
   She made the comments in an interview with BBC presenter Jane   
   Garvey on Radio 4’s Woman’s Hour yesterday morning.   
      
   Miss Garvey asked Miss Kurtz about views she expressed some   
   years ago, when she said women’s sexual freedom came with an   
   obligation to protect themselves.   
      
   Miss Garvey quoted Miss Kurtz’s words: ‘Please remember that   
   your new freedom to go out and play with the boys requires you   
   to employ an even greater freedom new to women, the greatest   
   freedom ... the freedom to take responsibility  for ourselves.’   
      
   Asked by Miss Garvey if she meant that rape was the fault of the   
   victim, Miss Kurtz said: ‘Rape is a vicious and wicked crime.   
   It’s an assault with a weapon. It’s not the fault of the victim.   
   However it’s a very good idea to keep away, to protect yourself.   
      
   ‘What I’m saying actually is not that it is her fault. But   
   please protect yourself, now that you’re allowed to, by not   
   getting drunk with the boys.’   
      
   Miss Garvey retorted that just because women get drunk, it   
   doesn’t mean they should become victims of rape, in the same way   
   that men shouldn’t become rapists if they drink too much.   
      
   Miss Kurtz replied: ‘No, and I couldn’t agree more if you’re   
   saying that nor should men become rapists because they can get   
   drunk.   
      
   That’s absurd. It’s like saying someone’s got to shoot someone   
   because he’s got a gun.   
      
   ‘However, the woman is responsible for herself. Men and women   
   are not quite the same. If a woman had a weapon she could use   
   when she got drunk, I would tell her not to, of course.   
      
   http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2547727/Women-drunk-men-   
   risk-rape-says-agony-aunt-Irma-Kurtz-faces-backlash-latest-   
   advice.html   
      
       
      
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