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|    Third, regret it's true. "Harriet Harman    |
|    27 Jun 14 22:09:11    |
      XPost: ba.politics, dc.media, soc.penpals       XPost: alt.burningman       From: dthomas@zazzle.com              Harriet Harman has embarked on an abrupt change of tack and       expressed regret that her former employers at the National       Council for Civil Liberties (NCCL) granted affiliate status to a       paedophile lobbying group in the 1970s.              Less than 12 hours after the Labour party's deputy leader told       BBC's Newsnight that she was the victim of a smear campaign by       the Daily Mail over the NCCL's links to the Paedophile       Information Exchange (PIE), Harman's office issued a statement       expressing regret about the links.              But Harman insisted that the affiliate status, granted in 1975,       three years before she joined the NCCL as legal officer, was       "immaterial" to her work.              An aide to Harman told the BBC's deputy political editor, James       Landale: "She regrets the existence of PIE and of course she       regrets any organisation's involvement with them, including the       National Council for Civil Liberties. But they were immaterial       to her work. She does not regret joining the NCCL. By the time       she arrived [PIE] were very much under the radar."              The statement from Harman's office came after she was widely       criticised for an interview on BBC2's Newsnight on Monday night       in which she declined to express any regret and instead attacked       the Daily Mail for publishing "titivating" pictures of young       girls in bikinis.              Harman appeared on Newsnight after the Daily Mail ran a series       of front-page stories highlighting the way in which the NCCL       granted the PIE affiliate status in 1975. Harman joined the NCCL       as legal officer in 1978. But her husband, Jack Dromey, now       shadow police minister, was on its executive at the time and       Harman's close ally the former Labour cabinet minister Patricia       Hewitt was the NCCL chief executive.              Shami Chakrabarti, the director of the NCCL's successor       organisation Liberty, responded to the Daily Mail allegations by       apologising for its links with the PIE. But Harman told       Newsnight: "It is not the case that my work, when I was at NCCL,       was influenced by PIE, was apologising for paedophilia or       colluding with paedophilia. That is an unfair inference and a       smear."              Sources close to Harman insisted she would not be apologising to       the Daily Mail, whose campaign has prompted hate mail from far       right groups.              The sources also pointed out that Dromey confronted the PIE       after he became executive chair of the NCCL in March 1976. He       moved against the group at the NCCL AGM the following month and       ensured the heavy defeat of a "bonkers" motion that would have       condemned the harassment of paedophile campaign groups.              The PIE was then largely marginalised in the NCCL, leaving       Harman to focus on her work on bans on marches, CND, Peter Hain       and the anti-apartheid campaign and the royal commission on       policing. A PIE supporter did have a letter published in NCCL       magazine in 1981. But this was critical of the NCCL.              On Monday Harman said that while "the editor and proprietor of       the Daily Mail are entitled to their political views and they       are of course entitled to oppose what I stand for", they were       "not entitled to use their newspaper to smear me with innuendo       because they disagree with me politically and hate my values".              After calls from the tabloid for the Labour leadership to speak       out on the issue, Harman was backed by Ed Miliband, who praised       her "huge decency and integrity" and said he did not "set any       store by these allegations".              Harman's attack on the Daily Mail echoes Miliband's decision to       publicly tackle claims made by the newspaper last year when it       branded his Marxist academic father, Ralph Miliband, the "man       who hated Britain".              In a series of articles, the Mail had accused the three senior       Labour figures of working for an organisation with a relaxed       attitude to paedophilia, as it claimed the NCCL proposed       legalising incest and wanted to lower the age of consent to as       low as 10 in a 1976 submission to MPs. The Mail accused Harman       of signing a document in favour of watering down child       pornography legislation in 1978.              Harman said the Mail was trying to make her "guilty by way of       association", while Dromey, also a Labour MP, said the paper's       allegations were "beneath contempt" as he had been at the       forefront of public condemnations of the PIE and their       "despicable views".              Harman said she had supported the equalisation of the age of       consent for gay sex, but never campaigned for the age of consent       to be lowered to 10. She also rejected the idea that she opposed       the law on incest, saying the document referred to by the Mail       was written before she started to work at the organisation.              On the allegation that she was seeking to water down a proposed       ban on child pornography, Harman said the NCCL had argued for       measures to stop the criminalisation of pictures used for sex       education or those taken by parents of their children on the       beach or in the bath. She said anyone could apply to join the       NCCL on payment of a fee and the PIE was just one of nearly       1,000 affiliated organisations.              "I was aware that because NCCL opposed censorship and supported       gay rights, paedophiles had sought to exploit that and use NCCL       as a vehicle to make their arguments. But by the time I came to       work for NCCL this vile organisation had already been vigorously       challenged within the organisation," she said.              In a separate statement, Dromey said he personally "took on" the       PIE when he was chairman of the NCCL in 1976 and defeated a       "loathsome motion" on the "so-called rights of paedophiles".              "As a lifelong opponent of evil men who abuse children, the       accusations of the Daily Mail are untrue and beneath contempt,"       he said.              Labour sources said Miliband had also looked into the claims       made by the Mail and "regards them as complete nonsense". Hewitt       has not commented on the story.              Speaking to Newsnight, Harman rejected the "ugly insinuation"       that her work was influenced by PIE. She said the group had been       "challenged and pushed aside" in 1976 and all the "anxiety and       controversy" about it was over by the time she arrived.              Harman said PIE was a front for "very bad people" and should not       have existed but refused to say it was a mistake for the NCCL to       take affiliation fees from the group. She accused the Mail of       being a greater supporter of "indecency", claiming it was not       above producing photos of "very young girls" in bikinis.              A spokesman for the Daily Mail criticised the MPs for failing to       say sorry and claimed the "belated statements of Ms Harman and       her husband – full of pedantry and obfuscation – failed to       answer the Mail's central points and deny allegations the Mail       has not made … as for smears, it is a newspaper's job to ask       awkward and controversial questions – questions that in this       instance are still awaiting a satisfactory answer," he added.              Last year Chakrabarti, who joined the organisation in 2001,       issued an apology about the links between the NCCL and the PIE.              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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