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|    Democrats push election-year Constitutio    |
|    14 Jul 14 22:03:46    |
      XPost: ba.politics, dc.media, soc.penpals       XPost: alt.burningman       From: vote10times@asshole.barackosama.the.pos.com              The Democratic-led Senate Judiciary Committee on Tuesday began a       long-shot bid at a constitutional amendment that would limit       deep-pocketed political campaign donors' influence.              With plenty of politics but very limited prospects of actually       changing the Constitution, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid       called the free flow of "shady money" into politics the biggest       threat to democracy he's seen. His Republican counterpart, Sen.       Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, called efforts to limit campaign       spending a tactic to rile up Democrats this election year.              Changing the Constitution is an intentionally difficult process,       and leaders from both parties acknowledge that the panel's       efforts to prohibit super PACs are likely to result in little       more than election-year posturing.              "Our involvement in government should not be dependent on our       bank account balances," Reid told panel members while sitting       next to McConnell in a rare joint appearance before a committee.              Reid, of Nevada, has used his post as the Senate's top lawmaker       to aggressively criticize industrialist billionaires Charles and       David Koch, who have funneled tens of millions from their       personal fortune to a network of conservative organizations.       Democrats have bristled at the Kochs' spending. In an apparent       reference to corporate campaign spending, some audience members       silently held protest signs reading: "Constitutional rights for       humans only."              Even Tuesday, Reid continued to his campaign against the Kochs.       "They have all these phantom organizations," Reid said. "They       must have 15 different phony organizations that they use to pump       money into the system."              McConnell said he had little patience for the political       stagecraft taking place.              "Everyone on this panel knows this proposal will never pass       Congress," McConnell said. "This is a political exercise to stir       up one party's political base so they'll show up in November by       complaining loudly about certain Americans exercising their free       speech and associational rights."              Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, predicted the Democrats' amendment would       allow critics to use the Constitution to ban books and films.              "Ray Bradbury would be astonished because we are seeing       `Fahrenheit 451' Democrats today," Cruz said, invoking the novel       about book burning.              Starting in 2010, the Supreme Court has whittled away at       campaign finance laws, first paving the way for super PACs and       later empowering the super-wealthy to open their checkbooks for       a virtually unlimited number of federal candidates.              Senate Democrats are trying to reverse those decisions by       changing the Constitution in a gambit unlikely to succeed. The       proposal would allow Congress and states to set limits on how       much money may be raised and spent in political campaigns.              But it is almost certain to fail. To change the Constitution,       two-thirds of the Senate and the House would have to back the       measure. Republicans, who generally oppose such a change, have       45 seats in the 100-member Senate. Democrats have 53 seats and       two political independents caucus with them -- falling short of       two-thirds.              The Republican-controlled House is unlikely to take up the       measure.              The Constitution has been changed only 27 times, including the       first 10 amendments, known as the Bill of Rights.              http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/06/03/democrats-push-       election-year-constitution-change/               ?              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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