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|    28 Jul 14 08:00:47    |
      XPost: ba.politics, dc.media, soc.penpals       XPost: alt.burningman       From: billy@bigpond.com              The unfolding sectarian violence in Iraq is just the latest       crisis where the Obama administration seemingly has been caught       off guard. From the Veterans Affairs scandal to Russia's swift       annexation of Crimea, news of the world somehow keeps taking the       commander-in-chief and his team by surprise.              The following is a refresher of major domestic and foreign       policy developments that, apparently, were news to the White       House.              1. Islamist militants gaining in Iraq              The New Yorker (1/27/2014): "In the 2012 campaign, Obama spoke       not only of killing Osama bin Laden; he also said that Al Qaeda       had been 'decimated.' I pointed out that the flag of Al Qaeda is       now flying in Fallujah, in Iraq, and among various rebel       factions in Syria; Al Qaeda has asserted a presence in parts of       Africa, too.              'The analogy we use around here sometimes, and I think is       accurate, is if a jayvee team puts on Lakers uniforms that       doesn’t make them Kobe Bryant,' Obama said, resorting to an       uncharacteristically flip analogy. 'I think there is a       distinction between the capacity and reach of a bin Laden and a       network that is actively planning major terrorist plots against       the homeland versus jihadists who are engaged in various local       power struggles and disputes, often sectarian.'"              The Wall Street Journal (6/11/2014): Iraq Drama Catches US Off       Guard              2. Russia's intervention in Ukraine              Politico.com (3/4/14): "A White House spokeswoman declined to       comment on whether Obama was satisfied with the intelligence he       received on Russian intentions in Ukraine. But spokesmen for the       U.S. intelligence community defended its work.              The Central Intelligence Agency says it’s always noted the       possibility of aggressive military action.              'Prior to and throughout the situation in Ukraine, the       intelligence community has provided timely and valuable       information that has helped policy makers understand the       situation on the ground and make informed decisions. That       continues to be the case today,' said Shawn Turner, a spokesman       for Director of National Intelligence James Clapper. 'Any       suggestion that there were intelligence shortcomings related to       the situation in Ukraine are uninformed and misleading.'              .. While officials appear to disagree about the insights       offered by U.S. intelligence, it’s beyond dispute that a lot of       public commentary pundits offered as the Ukraine crisis unfolded       was less than clairvoyant."              3. NSA spying on foreign leaders              Wall Street Journal (10/28/2013): "Obama was unaware for the       last 5 years, the NSA had been spying on German Chancellor       Angela Merkel and other members of world leaders. Only after an       internal Obama administration review in 2013 did the White House       know of the spying."              President Obama news conference with Turkish Prime Minister       Erdogan (5/16/2013): "I can assure you that I certainly did not       know anything about the I.G. report before the I.G. report had       been leaked through press -- through the press."              4. VA waiting list scandal              Jay Carney during a White House press briefing (5/19/2014):              JIM ACOSTA, CNN: "When was the president first made aware of       these problems? Of these fraudulent lists that were being kept       to hide the wait times, when was he first made aware of those       problems? And when did other White House officials, top White       House officials, become aware of these problems?"              JAY CARNEY: "When you say these problems, the fact that there       have been bureaucracies --"              ACOSTA: "The delays have been known for some time."              CARNEY: "You mean the specific allegations that I think were       reported first by your news network out of Phoenix, I believe.       We learned about them through the reports. I will double check       if that is not the case. But that is when we learned about them       and that is when I understand Secretary Shinseki learned about       them, and he immediately took the action that he has taken."              5. IRS targeting scandal              President Obama in a joint press conference with British Prime       Minister Cameron (May 13, 2013): "Well, let me take the IRS       situation first. I first learned about it from the same news       reports that I think most people learned about this. I think it       was on Friday."              6. HealthCare.gov failing              Remarks by President Obama on HealthCare.gov (10/21/2013): "Of       course, you've probably heard that HealthCare.gov -- the new       website where people can apply for health insurance and browse       and buy affordable plans in most states -- hasn't worked as       smoothly as it was supposed to work. And the number of people       who visit the site has been overwhelming which has aggravated       some of these underlying problems."              Jay Carney during a White House press briefing (10/23/2013):       "While we knew that there would be some glitches and actually       said publicly that we expected some problems, we did not know       until the problems manifested themselves after the launch that       they would be as significant as they have turned out to be."              7. DOJ obtaining AP phone records              Jay Carney during a White House press briefing (5/14/2013):              QUESTION: "When did the president find out about the Department       of Justice's subpoenas for the Associated Press?"              CARNEY: "Yesterday. Let me just be clear. We don’t have any       independent knowledge of that. He found out about the news       reports yesterday on the road."              QUESTION: "What was his reaction to that? Does he believe that       this was an overreach?"              CARNEY: "All I can tell you is that I cannot and he cannot       comment specifically on an ongoing criminal investigation or       actions that investigators at the Department of Justice may or       may not have taken. It would be wholly inappropriate. And if we       did comment on it, or if we did have insight into it, you would       appropriately ask why and is that correct procedure, because it       would not be."              8. Fast and Furious scandal              Jay Carney during a White House press briefing (6/27/2012): "The       president did not know about this tactic until he heard about it       through the media; the attorney general did not know about it."              9. Air Force One flyover in Manhattan              President Obama during media availability on arrival at FBI       headquarters (4/28/2009):              QUESTION: "Sir, what do think of the Air Force One incident --"              THE PRESIDENT: "No -- no questions --"              QUESTION: "-- over New York City yesterday, sir?"              QUESTION: "Are you concerned about New York City yesterday, sir,       with the Air Force plane?"              THE PRESIDENT: "It was a mistake, as was -- as was stated. It       was something we found out about along with all of you and it       will not happen again. Thank you."              http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/06/20/obama-administration-       caught-by-surprise/                             --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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