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 Message 770 
 Wilfred van Velzen to August Abolins 
 Re: Safester, anyone? 
 28 Jan 22 16:51:15 
 
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Hi August,

On 2022-01-28 09:11:00, you wrote to All:

 AA> I'm giving it a go. It's actually not too bad.  It's almost like
 AA> Protonmail (they generate a key/pair in the background, they claim the
 AA> passphrase is never on the server, and the messages and attachments
 AA> are stored encrypted on their server.) But unlike Protonmail, you
 AA> operate the system with a standalone DT program that they provide, and
 AA> get to use your existing email address of your choosing. (Protonmail
 AA> creates an @protonmail.com address for you).  And, ofcourse there are
 AA> Android and iOS versions too.

No Linux DT version?

 AA> Unlike Protonmail, there is no export of the keys to share or
 AA> adapt to another OpenGPG system.

 AA> You basically have to trust that all the security concerns on
 AA> the FAQ are legit.

 AA> They do however store the passphrase using a SHA-1 hashcode.  I
 AA> thought SHA-1 was depricated.

It is considered no longer safe, afaik...

 AA> I wonder if that could be an issue if their database of SHA-1 hashes
 AA> ever leaked.

An attacker with enough resources could in theory find some or all passwords.
And of course that becomes progressively easier in the future...

 AA> Safester *is* different operationally.  It doesn't use the internet
 AA> email system. Messages are only between client/server/ client.

So you can only exchange messages with other Safester users.

You're not a good sales person for Safester! Because all the things you
mention make me not want to use it! ;-)

Bye, Wilfred.
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