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 Message 802 
 Wilfred van Velzen to August Abolins 
 Re: Cops hate encryption but the NSA lov 
 06 Jun 23 16:28:14 
 
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Hi August,

On 2023-06-06 08:34:00, you wrote to me:

 AA>>> I bet gpg is more wide-spread in usage now than then.

 WvV>> I don't see any evidence of that.

 AA> Well.. Thunderbird has supported PGP/GPG integration for years
 AA> via plugins, and now it is practically built-in and part of the
 AA> whole program. An implementation like that only begs to be
 AA> discovered and used. If the coders for TB have done this, they
 AA> must have had the evidence or requests for that.

 AA> Then there are all the other programs such as GPGTools
 AA> GPGshell, etc.. that exist and continue to be supported.

 AA> I am sure friends tell two friends and so on, about these
 AA> options to integrate more privacy in comms.

Support/availability doesn't automatically mean usage...

And you will have to configure it in Thunderbird. Most users won't bother.

 AA>>> Collecting and analying meta data NOW seems like a make-work
 AA>>> project that wastes time and resources.

 WvV>> Why do you think so. The NSA (and likes) wouldn't turn of
 WvV>> their 2016 systems, if they still keep working and giving
 WvV>> them valuable data...

 AA> Sure.. even for them change is hard. So, they just keep
 AA> investing more and more resources to maintain this beast of
 AA> collecting everything - but with a very limited feasible
 AA> outcome.

You don't know that! ;-)

 AA> They are forced to focus on narrow sets of data: a particular
 AA> suspect or small group.

You don't know that! ;-)


Bye, Wilfred.

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