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 Message 2280 
 bob to John Levine 
 Re: planes and trains, was Amtrak picks  
 04 Sep 16 19:05:26 
 
From: rcp27g@gmail.com

John Levine  wrote:
>> I don't think there's much of a market for those huge planes at all. One
>> of the new runways at Chicago O'Hare was built to land those things, paid
>> for entirely by taxes and surcharges on airline passengers flying on
>> planes that had no trouble landing on runways sized for the jet age
>> in the 1960s.
>
> You're right that the market for superjumbos, the A380 and B747-8, is
> tiny.  Neither has much of an order backlog, and for the B747 it all
> seems to be freighters, for which it's the only thing that can handle
> the largest items, and flying pleasure palaces for Asian plutocrats.
>
> One size down, though, the B777, B787, and A350 are selling great, and
> both are much bigger than the 1960s 707 and 727.

That's why I indicated 200+ sized. That size includes the larger 767
variants as well as 777 and 787, as well as A330, A340 and A350, in
addition to the 747 and A380.

> What all those planes have in common is two engines and a two person
> cockpit, which makes them much cheaper to fly than the four engine
> superjumbos.  The current B777 has more seats than the early 747,
> partly due to its greater length, partly due to higher seat density.
>
> The B737 and A320 are the size of the 707, and both of those are also
> selling well.

Although at the 737 and A320 size, there is competition from the likes of
Embraer E series and Bombardier C series.

Robin

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