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 Message 2481 
 conklin to Stephen Sprunk 
 Re: more fuzzy math, was National FREIGH 
 08 Apr 14 11:13:50 
 
From: nilknocgeo@earthlink.net

"Stephen Sprunk"  wrote in message
news:li0ugr$gps$2@dont-email.me...
> On 07-Apr-14 14:03, conklin wrote:
>> "John Levine"  wrote in message
>> news:lhub89$2ogr$1@miucha.iecc.com...
>>>>> A table on cost sharing says that of the $431 million of
>>>>> shared infrastructure costs, $20M is attributable to freight,
>>>>> $258M to Amtrak, and $153M to commuter rail.
>>>>> Cross-subsidization is specifically prohibited, so freight pays
>>>>> its 4.6% share of costs.
>>>
>>>> Amtrak DOES need the money.  Freight service used to always
>>>> subsdize passenger service in the "good old days."
>>>
>>> So you're saying Amtrak is lying when they say they aren't allowed
>>> to cross-subsidize, and you know better?  Interesting argument.
>>
>> You said that, not me.  Passenger trains lose money, period,
>> anywhere.
>
> ... except for many places where they make a profit, including Acela.
>
>> Even Trains Magazine made that statment about 2 months ago.
>
> Cite?
>
It was in the article about whether Amtrak would ever make money, etc.  I
was going to post it at the time, but I assumed everyone knew that.  The
pigs used to subsdize the passengers.  Now that is not possible, it is going
to be very hard to keep up the Northeast corridor.

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