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 Message 2692 
 conklin to Adam H. Kerman 
 Re: safety improvements why not for oil  
 17 May 14 14:14:52 
 
From: nilknocgeo@earthlink.net

"Adam H. Kerman"  wrote in message
news:ll86mr$bon$3@news.albasani.net...
> conklin  wrote:
>>
>>"Adam H. Kerman"  wrote in message
>>news:ll5r60$1i7$2@news.albasani.net...
>>> conklin  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>"Adam H. Kerman"  wrote in message
>>>>news:ll5js2$iav$1@news.albasani.net...
>>>>> conklin  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:4992f897-fa17-41c7-b650-e1b6c2448af6@googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.mta.info/news/2014/05/15/metro-north-announces-
weeping-series-safety-reforms
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Automated Track Inspection: Metro-North has developed a comprehensive
>>>>>>automated track inspection plan. This plan includes the use of track
>>>>>>geometry measurements, machine vision track inspection, and rail
>>>>>>internal
>>>>>>defect testing. These efforts will augment the visual inspections
>>>>>>conducted
>>>>>>by the railroad. Metro-North is purchasing an autonomous track
>>>>>>monitoring
>>>>>>system to be mounted on passenger rail cars, to provide continuous
>>>>>>information about the condition of the right-of-way. The railroad will
>>>>>>also
>>>>>>obtain a dedicated track geometry vehicle.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>This is what is needed for those 120 car oil trains.  They need a
>>>>>>sensors
>>>>>>on
>>>>>>every oil train.
>>>>>
>>>>> And do what, exactly, George, that automated track inspection doesn't
>>>>> achieve when performed at regular intervals? You're completely insane.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Do you ever bother reading what you post?  Here is part of your
>>>>reference:
>>>>
>>>>-----------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>Metro-North is purchasing an autonomous track monitoring system to be
>>>>mounted on passenger rail cars, to provide continuous
>>>>information about the condition of the right-of-way.
>>>>
>>>>-----------------------------------
>>>
>>>>You say that is ok for Metro-North, but BAD for oil trains.
>>>
>>> At no point have I said it was ok for Metro North.
>>>
>>> I'm saying that track monitoring may get the track repaired before
>>> subsequent trains travel on that route, but they don't get the track
>>> repaired
>>> for the train equipped with track-monitoring equipment.
>>>
>>>>Oil trains need
>>>>the track monitoring system to be mounted on each train to provide
>>>>continuous information about the right-of-way.  No exceptions.  Just
>>>>like
>>>>Metro-North is going to do.
>>>
>>> Well, know, what you want is the train ahead of the oil train to have
>>> monitored track conditions, so that the oil train moves over
>>> newly-repaired
>>> track. But that's stupid because track doesn't require monitoring before
>>> every single fucking train.
>>
>>If Metro-North uses track montoring equipment on each train, then oil
>>trians
>>should do that too.
>
> George, please use your words to form a coherent thought and explain
> exactly what it is you want to accomplish for the good of the railroad.

If certain safety programs are required for Metro-North to keep from having
accidents, then oil trains need the same equipment, etc.  You refuse to
recognize that.

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