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 Message 3087 
 Adam H. Kerman to rcp27g@gmail.com 
 Re: Getting back to PTC (was: phone fun) 
 23 Apr 15 16:27:46 
 
From: ahk@chinet.com

  wrote:
>On Thursday, 23 April 2015 00:11:11 UTC+2, Adam H. Kerman  wrote:
>> Charles Ellson  wrote:
>> >"Adam H. Kerman"  wrote:
>> >>Stephen Sprunk  wrote:
>> >>>On 22-Apr-15 09:16, John Levine wrote:
>>
>> >>>>>>It's just like the stupidity of our CDMA/TDMA/iDEN war while the
>> >>>>>>world standardized on GSM.  Despite its flaws, GSM is far
>> >>>>>>superior to all of the US-developed systems _and_ costs less due
>> >>>>>>to economy of scale, which is why all US carriers are finally
>> >>>>>>moving that way.
>>
>> >>>>>Oh, c'mon, GSM came later. And it was mostly Europe that decided to
>> >>>>>use an international standards-making process because of the
>> >>>>>relatively small countries; I don't recall any other part of the
>> >>>>>world being involved.
>>
>> >>>>Quite right.  It was developed by ETSI, where E stands for European.
>>
>> >>>It was developed by CEPT and later transferred to ETSI.
>>
>> >>That would be the consortium of European post offices, not a world-wide
>> >>standards-making process, so your earlier statement was wrong. Who else
>> >>would have developed it? Under European socialism, the post office was
>> >>put in charge of the telephone infrastructure.
>>
>> >In most cases long before socialism was a working (FSVO "working")
>> >concept. Communications were generally kept within control of
>> >government agencies from long ago, the most convenient department
>> >tending to be the national Post Office which already dealt with
>> >letters and later usually inherited telegraphs followed by telephones.
>> >Describing the governments at the relevant times as "socialist" would
>> >in most cases be a bit of a joke.
>>
>> Both telegraph and telephone began as utilities owned by shareholders;
>> neither was begun by government.
>>
>> I'm using the term "socialism" correctly to refer to nationalization of
>> public utilities, regardless of whether the governments at the time had
>> other characteristics of socialism.
>
>In which case you are using the term entirely incorrectly.  It is the
>equivalent of suggesting that . . .

Oh, I'm not in the mood for any more of your bullshit analogies. We established
long long ago that 100% of your analogies suck.

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