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 Message 3092 
 Adam H. Kerman to Stephen Sprunk 
 Re: Getting back to PTC 
 23 Apr 15 17:44:04 
 
From: ahk@chinet.com

Stephen Sprunk  wrote:
>On 22-Apr-15 17:11, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

>>I'm using the term "socialism" correctly to refer to nationalization
>>of public utilities, ...

>That is more correctly referred to as "state socialism" (or "national
>socialism", prior to the Nazis appropriating that label for what was
>really fascism).  Plain "socialism" refers to the _workers_ owning the
>means of production, not the state.

Dude. The workers themselves owning the means of production is one form
of social ownership, but it is not an exclusive form of social ownership.

Nationalization is another form.

We have two contrasting railroad examples: C&NW, which sold itself to an
ESOP before Congress put ESOP in tax code, and Conrail, in which
nationalization ended the northeastern railroad crisis.

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