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 Message 3114 
 Adam H. Kerman to Stephen Sprunk 
 Re: Getting back to PTC 
 27 Apr 15 16:28:24 
 
From: ahk@chinet.com

Stephen Sprunk  wrote:
>On 23-Apr-15 14:13, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>> Stephen Sprunk  wrote:
>>> On 23-Apr-15 12:44, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>> Stephen Sprunk  wrote:
>>>>> On 22-Apr-15 17:11, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>>> I'm using the term "socialism" correctly to refer to
>>>>>> nationalization of public utilities, ...
>>>>>
>>>>> That is more correctly referred to as "state socialism" (or
>>>>> "national socialism", prior to the Nazis appropriating that
>>>>> label for what was really fascism).  Plain "socialism" refers
>>>>> to the _workers_ owning the means of production, not the
>>>>> state.
>>>>
>>>> Dude. The workers themselves owning the means of production is
>>>> one form of social ownership, but it is not an exclusive form of
>>>> social ownership.
>>>>
>>>> Nationalization is another form.
>>>
>>> Specifically, the form called "state socialism".
>>
>> I'm not calling it that, and you're arguing semantics.

>It's one thing to use the wrong term out of ignorance, which has now
>been cured.

I used the correct term. You just didn't like it.

>If you deliberately choose to use the wrong term despite knowing the
>correct one, then you forfeit the right to complain about others'
>mistakes--a favorite pastime of yours, it should be noted.

You're just being a pain in the ass here. It's not an argument.

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