From: ahk@chinet.com

Stephen Sprunk  wrote:
>On 25-Apr-15 21:27, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>Stephen Sprunk  wrote:
>>>On 24-Apr-15 14:11, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

>>>>That's a hell of a lot of cost shifting. Any medical provider
>>>>accepting Medicare must accept Medicaid. My state tends to be
>>>>years behind in paying providers. You're not acknowledging
>>>>reality even when the patient is receiving socialized medicine.

>>>And why do we have Medicare, Medicaid, etc.?  Because as a society,
>>>we accept that we have a moral obligation to provide certain
>>>services to those who are unable to provide them for themselves, in
>>>particular the elderly, the disabled and children. . . .

>>You may have noticed that Medicare isn't means tested, so that's
>>simply not true.

>And why do we have Medicare in the first place?  Private insurance for
>seniors was so expensive (if available at all) that virtually none of
>them could afford it.

You can't support that statement.

>The cost of means testing would be higher than the savings from denying
>coverage, just as we've seen recently in states requiring drug testing
>for welfare benefits, so it is a net savings to just offer it to everyone.

You can't support that statement either.

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