15 Sep 16 21:37, you wrote to me:

 ML>> then sign up with a free service... there are several available...
 ML>> heck, for that matter, sign up with a bbs account ;)

 AP> I have an Icloud account...

i know... it was evident in the control lines from your mailing list posts...
there was also something about a alprunty[dot]com...

 AP> I was running SMTP/POP on my BBS but since I dropped winserver I no
 AP> longer have a SMTP/POP solution.  If I could find something that would
 AP> translate it to the BBS I would do it in a new york minute.  I've yuet
 AP> to find something to do that for me yet with the exception of internet
 AP> rex and I've not been able to get that to work reliably.

you have to think old school... fidonet has been doing this gating thing since
the '80s... FRED was one of those i used way back but then GIGO came out and i
switched to it because there was a native OS/2 version... it does
email<->netmail fairly well... it has other capabilities, too, but they may
require additional software...

 ML>> i have maybe 15 or 20 email addresses that i check every day...
 ML>> thunderbird hits them all at once when i tell it to check... many of
 ML>> my email addresses are on my own email server but i've also several
 ML>> gmail, yahoo, and hotmail addresses...

 AP> That's too many for me to keep track of...

what is there to keep track of?

 AP> Much rather work on the KISS (Keep it stupid simple) philosophy.

and get stuck in a rut? ;)

 AP> I use icloud because Apple is very anti big-brother.  G-mail and the
 AP> others if you read their TOS they store the e-mail indefinately on
 AP> their systems for marketing research.  I don't trust them.... workign
 AP> for the government e-mail and trust is a big thing.  (Which is the one
 AP> issue I have with Hillary)

good grief... it is only a piddly little mailing list that you're after... not
top secret nuclear facility access and launch codes... set up a gmail, yahoo
or hotmail account as AP_elebbs@whatever and get your mailing list support as
needed... set up one address for each list or whatever... it isn't hard, it
isn't anything extra to keep up with and it really doesn't hurt at all...

on the other hand, though, i might just ask mike about gating it to fidonet...
i'm surprised it isn't already but it does have long periods of silence...

 ML>> sorry but spamcop doesn't eat anything... it is a reporting service
 ML>> only... your provider is filtering based on the results of queries to
 ML>> the spamcop database... i used spamcop for several years to take back
 ML>> my email acount from the spammers... i used to get over 300 spams a
 ML>> day

 AP> It's not the spamcop it's the "brightmail" that they use.  If a
 AP> mailing list does not conform to the new "spoof" proof mailing list
 AP> standards it won't work.  I can toatally see why it would reject
 AP> because most mailing list software now sends from the list name on
 AP> behalf of the user.  Previously (and yahoogroups used to work this
 AP> way) it would send directly in the user's name and e-mail address.

that depends on the settings of the mailing list... you can thank the spammers
for all this crap and hardship, though... the easiest solution i see is
detailed above with gmail, yahoo, or hotmail... and not to OS bash but i
really really hate seeing my friends struggling and struggling with
winwhatever and being unable to do what they want/need when they had it for
literally pennies years ago when they were running OS/2... i still run OS/2
and the same software i was running then... winwhatever is a "has been"
here... linux is the new thing and i hate to admit that i am considering
moving my entier OS/2 operation over to linux... hell, linux even comes with
its own SMTP servers that can deliver to something like GIGO... expand your
horizons and get out of that sticky gooey GUI mess :wink:

 AP> Now that the mailservers authenticate that the person really sent the
 AP> mail I can totally appreciate the rejection of it.  In fact many of
 AP> the "free" providers... especially Google, Yahoo, AOL or
 AP> Outlook.com/hotmail will reject if the mail is not authenticated
 AP> properly since they were the ones who developed this standard
 AP> collectively.

they've added unneeded complexity to a simple problem...

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