* In a message originally to Allen Prunty, mark lewis said:

 ML> you have to think old school... fidonet has been doing this gating thing
 ML> since the '80s... FRED was one of those i used way back but then GIGO
 ML> came out and i switched to it because there was a native OS/2 version...

I've ran both GIGO and FRED.  I could still use GIGO but I need something that

 captures the SMTP inbound and puts it into a file that GIGO can read.  Thaat's

 the tricky part is getting something to listen on the SMTP port.

 ML> good grief... it is only a piddly little mailing list that you're
 ML> after... not top secret nuclear facility access and launch codes... set
 ML> up a gmail, yahoo or hotmail account as AP_elebbs@whatever and get your
 ML> mailing list support as needed... set up one address for each list or

No not top secret stuff... but I can see why the new mail servers like

 Exchange are doing what they do.  Now they are checking all received e-mails

 against an embedded SPF "Seed" in the message to verify if you actually sent

 it.

What happens with older mailing list servers is that they send the message as

 if the user actually sent it which doesn't cut the validation.  On the flip

 side if I found something that listened to the SMTP I probably wouldn't find

 an outbound program that will pass the proper validation going outbound and a

 lot of my sent mail will not be delivered either.

Older versions of mailman do not send messages "on behalf" they send as the

 user.  Believe me when I worked for Charter/Level-3 we actually had this blow

 up about 4 years ago when they decided to implement this type of anti-spam.

 Now almost every modern mailserver has this kind of checking.

It's a good thing because people would spam the lists very easily by spoofing

 a participant's mail address... now it isn't that easy.

Allen


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