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 Message 21087 
 mm0fmf to yeti 
 Re: RasPIan is firmware now? 
 30 Nov 24 13:14:34 
 
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On 30/11/2024 10:50, yeti wrote:
> What is RasPIan doing differently now?

I don't know what they are doing but it fuc^W failed badly when I did it.

I have done numerous x86 in situ Debian upgrades on laptops, desktops
and VMs in data centres. All have been upgraded from Debian 9 to 10,
then 11 and then 12 as new versions become available. Follow the guide
on the Debian website and it just works.

But 11 to 12 on a Pi Zero W really mucked up. Sure I ended up with
something that would say it was Debian 12 and seemed to work. But after
a while I noticed the networking was a mixture of NetworkMangler and old
scripts that was an unbelievable spaghetti of mixed stuff. Also whatever
repos it was using, it didn't do kernel updates. And yes, I checked the
repos were correct in /etc/apt.

I had successfully upgraded in place from 10 to 11 on the same Pi Zero W
before. But 11 to 12 was a disaster.

No surprises a clean install and applying my changes brought me a v12
that works and isn't a mixture of 11 and 12.

I don't have enough minutes left on Earth to worry why and find out what
went wrong. Next time I will back up the 12 image + changes and updates
and try in situ update to see if 12>13 works. If it looks slightly iffy
I'll reinstall again. And I have the backup image should I ever need to
go back.

And I know I'm not the only person who found in situ update to 12 failed.

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