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On 26 Jan 2025 at 20:23:47, Chris Green  wrote:
> Andy Burns  wrote:
>> Chris Green wrote:
>>
>> > Is there **really** such a big security issue with default login names
>> > and passwords on Raspberry Pis?  Surely almost all of them are going
>> > to be on home networks behind NAT routers and also surely no one is
>> > going to (without thinking about it a bit!) put confidential data on
>> > one.
>>
>> Plenty of Pis (especially the compute modules) end-up in industrial kit,
>> maybe not much data on them, but you don't want them being used to
>> laterally attack other systems.
>>
>> 
>>
>>        "Passwords must be—
>>                (a)unique per product; or
>>                (b)defined by the user of the product."
>
> Ah, so it's legislation has caused this. :-)
>
> Again I say, anyone who is actually deploying Pis in such a situation
> needs to know what they're doing.  If they don't know what they're
> doing no amount of legislation is going to help much.
>
>
> What really is getting to me is that the non-GUI user who wants to use
> a Pi (or arduino or BBB) to moinitor the temperature in his garage

An RPi is overkill for a job like that.
An ESP32 or Arduino will keep things simple at far lower cost.

> ends up having to jumpo through lots of unnecessary hoops to do it. To
> a significant extent it's because the Pi has become much more 'mass
> market'.
>
> Oh well, I guess I can live with it. Rant over.  :-)

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