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On 20/10/2025 21:29, Daniel wrote:
> Chris Townley  writes:
> 
>> On 20/10/2025 16:24, Daniel wrote:
>>> Daniel  writes:
>>>
>>>> Daniel James  writes:
>>>>
>>>>> On 20/10/2025 00:13, Daniel wrote:
>>>>>> I'm a bit turned off by the cooling fan next to the heat sync. Is that
>>>>>> fan absolutely necessary for users never intending on overclocking the
>>>>>> cpu?
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know.
>>>>>
>>>>> The production laptop isn't expected to be available until late
>>>>> November/early December, so nobody really knows how well the cooling
>>>>> solution will work in practice.
>>>>>
>>>>> ... but if I had to guess ...
>>>>>
>>>>> It uses a Raspberry Pi Compute Module 5, in a fairly confined space,
>>>>> so not much natural airflow. The general consensus of opinion is that
>>>>> a CM5 does need a fan unless its workload is trivial. I expect the
>>>>> laptop's fan won't come on until the temperature passes some
>>>>> threshhold (I have an Argon One case for a Pi4, and that has a fan
>>>>> that works in this way) but I would expect it to be necessary when the
>>>>> machine is under load.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks. I will wait until the device has hit the wild and await
>>>> reviews. I saw reviews already but it was tech youtubers who got a
>>>> preproduction model.
>>>>
>>>> I'd be interested in the keyboard quality. Can't be worse than the
>>>> pi400's.
>>> The argon 40 studio put up a youtube prototyping vid of the
>>> build. Nice
>>> rig.
>>> https://da.gd/4QK0N
>>> If you dont trust shortened url's, check youtube for
>>> Behind the Build: Prototyping the Argon ONE UP
>>> D
>>
>> I wouldn't trust anything from Argon40 again
> 
> 
> What happened, if you don't mind my asking?

I had an Argon One for a Pi4 - great, then when I bought a Pi5 I got 
their V3 plus the NVME connector.

In principle it is great, but their software install is a pile of 
spaghetti shell script, and doesn?t really work, although I found an 
alternative that did.

However their design is flawed, as it uses it's own board that filters 
out a lot of checks. Their support forum is carp - they just don't 
respond to anything.

I did get it working, but enough grief for me!

-- 
Chris

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