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On 2025-12-12 12:21, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 11/12/2025 20:59, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2025-12-11 19:28, John R Walliker wrote:
>>> On 11/12/2025 18:16, Lars Poulsen wrote:
>>>> On 2025-12-11, Daniel James  wrote:
>>>>> On 11/12/2025 04:12, c186282 wrote:
>>>>>> ... they just run lots of pipes on the outsides of the thick stone
>>>>>> walls. Works, but you'd never get away with that in modern
>>>>>> commercial buildings. Things have to look all neat and tidy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have you SEEN the Centre Georges Pompidou in Paris?
>>>>>
>>>>> ... or the Lloyds Insurance building in London, for that matter.
>>>>
>>>> I seem to remember hearing that there was an English building code that
>>>> REQUIRED outside pipes for water (and sewage?) so that they could be
>>>> easily thawed with a blowtorch when they froze in the winter?
>>>
>>> No, it was only done to save money.
>>
>> It seems amazing to me doing that in Britain, were pipes can freeze. 
>> Now I understand the description of an hotel (Devon) in a novel I'm 
>> reading (Ruth Rendell, The secret house of death).
>>
> 
> I think the issue is that pre war, many many houses had no water, no 
> inside toilet, no heating beyond a coal fire no electricity and so on.
> 
> Hence they were upgraded to a water tank in the roof and some form of 
> sporadic mains water supply, fed via something coming out of the ground 
> and into the house.
> Drainage was often external - room size was small and the pipes were 
> just routed outside for ease of installation. And indeed access for 
> clearing blockages.
> 
> Retrofitting modern infrastructure to old houses is massively expensive.

My city is ancient, three thousand years, but there is no river. Well 
water tends to be salty, from the sea; mixed often. I don't know how 
they survived. I think the water in sufficient quantities arrived in 
1945, from a river 170 Km to the north. So before that year, houses here 
had no bathrooms, they were built since then as houses were provided 
with running water. Yet, I have not seen that network of pipes on the 
outside, except for rain water from the roof.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
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