MSGID: <69465267@news.ausics.net> a5bfee65
REPLY: <10i08al$40fb$2@dont-email.me> 0ac73e60
PID: PyGate 1.5.2
TID: PyGate/Linux 1.5.2
CHRS: ASCII 1
TZUTC: 1000
REPLYADDR not@telling.you.invalid
REPLYTO 3:633/10 UUCP
Lawrence D'Oliveiro  wrote:
> On 8 Dec 2025 10:29:08 +1000, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>> When you start Firefox from a terminal does it complain about any
>> missing libraries?
> 
> When you run a GUI app in the regular GUI way, it used to write its error 
> messages to the file ~/.xsession-errors.

Maybe your system did, I don't get any such file even running
programs that I know dump out errors, but I'm using TinyX. Oh and
a system running Xorg 21 doesn't have it either. Anyway it's easy
to run programs from a terminal window for troubleshooting and
a log would fill up my storage space with junk messages, so I'm not
interested in enabling that.

> Trouble is, lines in that file 
> never had any timestamps or any other identifying information about where 
> they came from. Under Wayland+systemd, you can now monitor those errors a 
> bit more cleanly with journalctl --user.

I find journalctl unclean in all the most important respects, but
you're welcome to it.

-- 
__          __
#_ < |\| |< _#

--- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
 * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
SEEN-BY: 105/81 106/201 128/187 129/14 305 153/7715 154/110 218/700
SEEN-BY: 226/30 227/114 229/110 112 134 200 206 300 317 400 426 428
SEEN-BY: 229/470 616 664 700 705 266/512 291/111 292/854 320/219 322/757
SEEN-BY: 342/200 396/45 460/58 633/10 280 414 418 420 422 509 2744
SEEN-BY: 712/848 770/1 902/26 2320/105 5020/400 5075/35
PATH: 633/10 280 229/426