From: clare@snyder.on.ca   
      
   On Thu, 4 Jul 2024 16:27:06 -0500, Snag  wrote:   
      
   >On 7/4/2024 2:41 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:   
   >> I'm sure you are all tired of the saga of the built to "a" spec Ingersol   
   >> Rand compressor from Craptor Supply.  The one that killed its own motor   
   >> in a year.  The one others have reported catching on fire.  The one I've   
   >> concluded only worked as long as it did because the thermal protector   
   >> had to be defective or disabled in the original motor.  (Which is   
   >> probably why some caught on fire.)  The one that tripped the thermal   
   >> constantly on one replacement motor, and the breaker and/or thermal on   
   >> the other.  The one I've been keeping running with an under sized motor   
   >> pulley.  Never mind the debacle with the after market warranty company,   
   >> or the repair shop who reported the repair complete without ever   
   >> visiting my shop.  Even with a much smaller pulley it still trips the   
   >> thermal protector from time to time.  Mostly because I think it has to   
   >> run longer when it cycles on with the smaller pulley, and when I have   
   >> several machines running, all of which use air for various things, it   
   >> has to cycle on more often.   
   >>   
   >> Mostly I can get by for now.  In the last few months I've only had the   
   >> thermal trip on me 4-5 times and I run the shop every day.  Still   
   >> sometimes I run complex operations which can be several hundred lines of   
   >> code on a single tool.  This gives me the opportunity to run an errand   
   >> or go in the house for lunch.  It would cost me more than the cost of a   
   >> compressor if an ISO20 quick change spindle air seal fails and sucks   
   >> coolant up inside the head as it cools down.  Okay the odds of that are   
   >> slim, but it keeps me up at night anyway.   
   >>   
   >> I had decided to bring my dad's compressor to my shop and keep the IR as   
   >> just a backup.  They are functionally similar except the IR has a 5HP   
   >> motor and the one at my dad's shop has a 7.5.    Well, that is still the   
   >> plan, but those compressors are heavy and I don't have anything out at   
   >> my dad's shop (60 miles away) to practically lift his compressor to load   
   >> it into my truck or even onto my low trailer.  Oh, I am sure there is a   
   >> chain fall out there, and there is an old a-frame laying out back, but   
   >> his shop is a quonset hut.  No beams. The a-frame will eventually get   
   >> moved to my shop, but its freaking heavy.  I don't even think I can   
   >> stand it up without the help of a lift.  I know I used it in my youth to   
   >> pull more than a couple V-8 engines.  Scooting it on concrete when its   
   >> on its pads takes a little effort unloaded, and with a big block 360   
   >> hanging from it a bit more effort.  Standing it up in the dirt and   
   >> dragging it around... Anyway.  It will get done eventually, but not   
   >> today or tomorrow.  When I do I'll probably trailer my tractor out there   
   >> to do the job with its loader bucket.   
   >>   
   >> I just ordered a 7.5 HP compressor duty motor for the IR.  IR actually   
   >> sells a very similar compressor with a 7.5 HP motor on it at about 3.5   
   >> times the price of this one.  Then, since I already know all the parts,   
   >> I ordered a new hub for the original pulley to fit the 1-1/8 shaft on   
   >> the new motor.   
   >>   
   >> I quit screwing around with those 5HP motors.  Now I have not one, but   
   >> two unused single phase 230V "5HP" spare motors.  Maybe I'll make a   
   >> couple big belt grinders for erasing the bumpy spots on mountains.  If I   
   >> make a belt grinder or three, which is part of my planned projects, I   
   >> plan to use 3 phase motors for speed control, so not really with those   
   >> 5s.  I guess I could build a sheave stack, but turning a knob is so much   
   >> easier than moving a belt.  FYI:  I do have three belt grinders already.   
   >>   a 1x30 and a 1x42 that I use almost everyday for conditioning and   
   >> de-burring parts.  The third one is on a shelf...   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >   
   >   More power ! Hurrr hurr hurrr . That bigger motor is going to run   
   >cooler and probably use less power than the 5 . I've got a 7.5 Hp OHV   
   >motor here to replace the 5 Hp side valve on my tiller when it finishes   
   >dying . I thought it had seized but it started right up the next day .   
      
      
   Bet if you check the current draw on that "5 HP compressor motor" it   
   is in reality a 3 or 3.5 HP motor.   
      
   I've got a 9HP "Chonda" engine sitting in the shed with no plans at   
   the moment but it's up here in Ontario. (also a 9HP verical shaft side   
   valve electric start Briggs if anybody up here needs one)   
      
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