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   Clare Snyder to Snag   
   Re: I Quit   
   11 Jul 24 23:25:45   
   
   From: clare@snyder.on.ca   
      
   On Fri, 5 Jul 2024 16:37:19 -0500, Snag  wrote:   
      
   >On 7/5/2024 3:28 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:   
   >> On 7/5/2024 4:35 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:   
   >>> "Bob La Londe"  wrote in message news:v67bh1$2v2ot$1@dont-email.me...   
   >>>   
   >>> I considered that, but I want both compressors 100% or what's the point   
   >>> of having a backup.   
   >>>   
   >>> I can haul heavy stuff.  Its just time consuming, plus the 2 hours (+/-)   
   >>> of road time.  Also, its going to take time to move one compressor in   
   >>> and the other out.  I am considering an "outdoor" compressor closet, and   
   >>> plumb in both compressors together.  Just have valves to shut one off   
   >>> from the distribution lines and only turn on one or the other.   
   >>>   
   >>> That might actually be faster than a swap, and down time would be much   
   >>> less too.   
   >>>   
   >>> Might see about some sort of transfer switch so I can't accidentally   
   >>> turn them both on at once.   
   >>>   
   >>> It would be nice to get the compressor noise out of the back shop.   
   >>>   
   >>> Bob La Londe   
   >>> -------------------------------------   
   >>>   
   >>> Check valves in the lines and a double throw power switch (3 ph   
   >>> fwd/rev) would give you those features automatically, and you could   
   >>> omit the valves.   
   >>>   
   >>> Can someone explain gladhands to me? I'm wondering if they would be   
   >>> better than the garden hose couplers I use to flexibly connect and   
   >>> reconfigure my 120 PSI max air system, in which the air may flow in   
   >>> either direction. A Net search suggests they can be dangerous to   
   >>> handle because they don't close automatically when disconnected.   
   >>>   
   >>> Though not a perfect fit or pressure seal, a 3/4" PVC pipe plug will   
   >>> keep dirt and bugs out of a disconnected female hose end.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> If I could get all the tiny little losses eliminated I'd be tempted to   
   >> use both tanks for air storage, and just periodically switch which   
   >> compressor fills them. Then even if a compressor failed it would carry   
   >> the air seals for hours.   
   >>   
   >> I also considered some sort of auto backup.  The easy way would be to   
   >> set the backup compressor to switch on at a lower pressure, but there   
   >> are a number of small issues that could cause both compressors to run at   
   >> the same time.  That's power I do not always have.  I never intended to   
   >> have a working machine shop.  This was just supposed to be a warehouse   
   >> for my contracting business.  I only have a 100 amp sub panel feeding   
   >> everything.  I know.  I know.  Upgrade the sub panel.  The house only   
   >> has a 200 amp main, and my wife wants to run electric demand heaters.   
   >> I'll have to upgrade the house main first.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >   
   >   Can you set up a relay lockout that whichever compressor is running   
   >will cut power to the other ? An "or" gate type setup .   
    Just a pilotted (monitored) relay with the pilot on one in series   
   with the coil of the other   
      
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