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   On 8/14/2024 6:34 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:   
   > "Gerry" wrote in message   
   > news:gc53bjtirokrsnad8d6n0426lsafuq4lbt@4ax.com...   
   >   
   > On Mon, 5 Aug 2024 14:14:49 -0700, Bob La Londe    
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 8/5/2024 1:54 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:   
   >>> My son got a second job as the guy taking care of, helping with setups,   
   >>> etc at the NAU (Yuma Campus) machine shop. Primarily they have a couple   
   >>> HAAS Mini Mill 2 VMCs, and a TL1 lathe... along with some other   
   >>> equipment. He was over helping me install some equipment in my shop the   
   >>> other day. (He's skinny enough to get behind some stuff without moving   
   >>> it) We got to geeking about things. One thing I suggested to him a   
   >>> while back is to see if he could get the university to pay the for the   
   >>> cost of him taking the HAAS certification courses on those machines. He   
   >>> asked and they agreed. They even went the extra expense of bringing out   
   >>> somebody from HAAS to complete the certifications. Part of the courses   
   >>> are on-line, but you have to do the final certifications in person. Most   
   >>> people travel to their HQ for that. The university is bringing somebody   
   >>> out from HAAS.   
   >>>   
   >>> One of the other things we talked about was tooling. The university has   
   >>> a deal with HAAS where they have to use all HAAS tooling. Sounds at   
   >>> first like they got educator prices on machines, and then got stuck, but   
   >>> no. The price of just about everything I looked up was really good. New   
   >>> CT40 tool holders for less than the price of used ones on eBay. A   
   >>> Haimer 3D taster for a little more than 25% less than the CHEAPEST other   
   >>> source I have found. I might actually buy one at that price... with a   
   >>> whole box of spare probes of course. LOL. I didn't look at everything   
   >>> obviously, but the price for the HAAS tooling we looked at is very   
   >>> reasonable. That is not some special educator price either. That's the   
   >>> price you or I would pay.   
   >>>   
   >>> They asked Rob (my son) to give them a list of tooling he wanted for the   
   >>> machines. They baulked when it was as much as another machine. LOL.   
   >>>   
   >>> His first job is as a licensed pharmacy technician. Okay maybe that's   
   >>> the 2nd job and the NAU machine shop is the third. He is also a full   
   >>> time engineering student. He already has several AA degrees and is   
   >>> working on his BA. That's his primary job.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> Okay, I checked some other stuff and some of it is pretty daffy   
   >> expensive, but there is still a lot that is crazy competitive.   
   >> --   
   >> Bob La Londe   
   >> CNC Molds N Stuff   
   > You have a son to be proud of!   
   >   
   > --------------------------------   
   > With that skill mix he could do well in biotech instrumentation, robotic   
   > surgery machines or pharmaceutical manufacturing. My skill mix of   
   > chemistry + physics, electronics and machining got me good and   
   > interesting prototyping jobs where I fleshed out the initial concept and   
   > then built it. A design engineer who understands manufacturing can avoid   
   > the expensive wrong turns engineers who don't know it can make. Even   
   > senior mechanical engineers can miss practical details, at Segway I   
   > introduced one to PEM nuts for simple and secure blind attachments to   
   > sheet aluminum, which he had avoided using in a robot because he didn't   
   > trust sheet metal screws.   
   > jsw   
      
   I'm more impressed that he's doing it without running up debt. He and   
   his significant other are looking for a house. If they find something   
   that will shoot that in the foot though. I was looking at houses listed   
   locally on Realtor dot com and the cheapest house (shack really) with   
   land (postage stamp size) listed was 125,000. It wasn't that long ago a   
   buddy of mine was buying up repos for 20-60 grand.   
      
      
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   Bob La Londe   
   CNC Molds N Stuff   
      
      
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