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   Message 213,743 of 215,319   
   Jim Wilkins to Grimble Crumble   
   Re: "[T]he right secured by the Second A   
   30 Sep 24 19:56:48   
   
   XPost: alt.politics, misc.survivalism, talk.politics.guns   
   XPost: alt.california, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh   
   From: muratlanne@gmail.com   
      
   "Peter Fairbrother"  wrote in message news:vdfab9$2divu$1@dont-email.me...   
      
   On 30/09/2024 20:54, Grimble Crumble wrote:   
      
   > "As the quotations earlier in this opinion demonstrate,   
   > the inherent right of self-defense has been central to the   
   > Second Amendment right.   
      
   Can't say I agree with that. Bearing arms for self-defense may be a long   
   established right, but it isn't a second amendment right.   
      
   Under the second amendment you can keep and bear arms in order to form a   
   militia; but the second amendment doesn't say anything about keeping   
   arms for self-defense.   
   Peter Fairbrother   
      
   ----------------------------------   
      
   That may be your personal opinion, but it isn't what the US Supreme Court   
   confirmed in the Heller case.   
      
   https://www.britannica.com/event/District-of-Columbia-v-Heller   
      
   ".. U.S. Supreme Court on June 26, 2008, held (5–4) that the Second   
   Amendment guarantees an individual right to possess firearms independent of   
   service in a state militia and to use firearms for traditionally lawful   
   purposes, including self-defense within the home."   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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