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   Message 213,751 of 215,367   
   Jim Wilkins to Peter Fairbrother   
   Re: "[T]he right secured by the Second A   
   01 Oct 24 13:37:17   
   
   XPost: alt.politics, misc.survivalism, talk.politics.guns   
   XPost: alt.california, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh   
   From: muratlanne@gmail.com   
      
   "Just Wondering"  wrote in message news:zRVKO.198503$WXO8.12429@fx13.iad...   
      
   On 9/30/2024 4:56 PM, Peter Fairbrother (peter@tsto.co.uk) wrote:   
   > On 30/09/2024 20:54, Grimble Crumble wrote:   
   >   
   >> "As the quotations earlier in this opinion demonstrate,   
   >> the inherent right of self-defense has been central to the   
   >> Second Amendment right.   
   >   
   > Can't say I agree with that. Bearing arms for self-defense may be a long   
   > established right, but it isn't a second amendment right.   
   >   
   The Second Amendment confers no right.  You admit bearing arms for   
   self-defense is a right.  Well and good, 2A doesn't create that right,   
   it exists to protect that right from government infringement.   
      
   > Under the second amendment you can keep and bear arms in order to form a   
   > militia; but the second amendment doesn't say anything about keeping arms   
   > for self-defense.   
   >   
   Do try to keep up  The Supreme Court has already held the opposite   
   of what you have written.   
      
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