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   Message 213,752 of 215,319   
   Scout to All   
   Re: "[T]he right secured by the Second A   
   01 Oct 24 10:20:06   
   
   news.newsdemon.com> 40b5fc11   
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   From: me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net   
      
   "Grimble Crumble"  wrote in message   
   news:1434789197.749433562.235899.grimblecrumble870-gmail.com@new   
   .newsdemon.com...   
   > Peter Fairbrother  wrote:   
   >> On 30/09/2024 20:54, Grimble Crumble wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> "As the quotations earlier in this opinion demonstrate,   
   >>> the inherent right of self-defense has been central to the   
   >>> Second Amendment right.   
   >>   
   >> Can't say I agree with that. Bearing arms for self-defense may be a long   
   >> established right, but it isn't a second amendment right.   
   >>   
   >> Under the second amendment you can keep and bear arms in order to form a   
   >> militia; but the second amendment doesn't say anything about keeping   
   >> arms for self-defense.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> Peter Fairbrother   
   >>   
   >   
   > You can disagree with that, but the supreme court case cited disagrees.   
   > The   
   > opinion of the court has long supported the 2nd amendment's connection to   
   > the right of self-defense.   
      
   yep, one can hardly defend another until they can first defend themselves.   
      
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