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   Clare Snyder to Snag   
   Re: Successful Transplant !   
   27 Oct 24 19:10:47   
   
   From: clare@snyder.on.ca   
      
   On Sat, 26 Oct 2024 21:59:09 -0500, Snag  wrote:   
      
   >On 10/26/2024 9:17 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:   
   >> On Sat, 26 Oct 2024 14:27:15 -0500, Snag  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 10/25/2024 4:17 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:   
   >>>> On Thu, 24 Oct 2024 17:15:56 -0500, Snag  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On 10/24/2024 3:45 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 10/21/2024 3:29 PM, Snag wrote:   
   >>>>>>>      I picked up the truck axle today ... Got it bolted into place   
   >>>>>>> before my back started complaining . It has a right to complain , I've   
   >>>>>>> abused it the last few days harvesting firewood .   
   >>>>>>>      I'm eagerly anticipating getting this project finished , I was   
   >>>>>>> hoping to have the truck ready by next weekend for Beanfest . Looks   
   >>>>>>> promising so far , I've got all the new parts for what I want to   
   >>>>>>> replace . This is going to be interesting , my first experience with a   
   >>>>>>> limited slip diff . Dropping from 2.73:1 to 3.42's is going to make   
   >>>>>>> things a bit more lively too .   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> I was going to write up some of my comments on limited slip and locking   
   >>>>>> differentials, because I have had both, but the experience and which   
   >>>>>> performed exactly how kind of runs together in my memory.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> The 03 Silverado 2500 (2wd) had auto locking rear.   
   >>>>>> The '17 Jeep JK had limited slip.  I can't recall if it was rear only or   
   >>>>>> front and rear.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> The 07 Silverado had rear autolocking   
   >>>>>> The 24 F250 has rear electric locking.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> I have felt the affects and it definitely helps in the soft stuff. Can't   
   >>>>>> speak to the slippery stuff.  I try to avoid that at all cost.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Not sure exactly how posi differs from limited slip or auto locking, but   
   >>>>>> its the real deal for street racing.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> FYI:  I am thinking about building a stroked 351 and pushing it out to   
   >>>>>> around 401.  Not today though.  Looking for gobs of mid range for towing   
   >>>>>> torque with a long duration cam rather than a high reving high HP engine   
   >>>>>> with a high lift cam.  I sold my 07 Silverado and my Jeep.  Now I only   
   >>>>>> have the new 24 Ford for a tow vehicle.  I feel naked without a   
   >>>>>> backup... er tow vehicle that is.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>     I got the brakes on yesterday , adjusted them this morning and bolted   
   >>>>> the bed back on . Took it for a short ride after I finished , it seems   
   >>>>> to drive the same as before . Except when I punch it on gravel it leaves   
   >>>>> 2 gouges instead of one . The one drive train "problem" I have left is   
   >>>>> torque converter lockup . It ain't locking up . I'll need to do some   
   >>>>> testing , it's probably related to all of the original pollution   
   >>>>> controls going missing while the truck was out of service . My poor gas   
   >>>>> mileage probably has something to do with that . There are manual   
   >>>>> workarounds , but I really want this to be automatic .   
   >>>>    Bad temp sensor or loww thermostat temp will do that - has to be   
   >>>> warmed up to "operating temperature" before it locks. VSS is the other   
   >>>> input - has to be over a certain speed. Brake light switch will also   
   >>>> prevent lockup (cannot lock if the switch says the brakes are on).   
   >>>> Before digging into ANY of that make sure the lockup function actually   
   >>>> works by installing a manual switch. You can automate the whole thing   
   >>>> with simple relay logic - the  speed control is the most complicated.   
   >>>> An Arduino simplifies the whole thing significantly and actually   
   >>>> costsless than the 3 relays required for relay logic but you need to   
   >>>> wrap your head around the boolean logic required for the arduino - and   
   >>>> the basic programming involved.   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>>    Clare , I will probably hook up a switch to test function , but it   
   >>> will be temporary - and since the solenoid in the trans is brand new   
   >>> when rebuilt less than a thousand miles back I fully expect it to   
   >>> function properly . My understanding from the manual is that the lockup   
   >>> is solely controlled by a vacuum/electric switch which is controlled by   
   >>> engine vacuum . There is no temp dependent switch in the circuit . I do   
   >>> know for a fact that the circuit was working before the trans was   
   >>> rebuilt (and a bunch of vacuum lines and emission control devices got   
   >>> lost) , the radio is on the same fuse and because the solenoid in the   
   >>> trans was shorted it would blow that fuse every time it energized .   
   >>   If it only has the vac switch it will be ugly when the engine is cold   
   >> and under braking. If it has a low gear lockout that all gets better -   
   >> (Some early TH350s with locking converter used the simple setup but   
   >> even THEY worked better cold with a thermo lockout - and I believe   
   >> they still had a speed lockout (built into the trans) operated by   
   >> governor pressure.  The newer stuff does it all with the TCM reading   
   >> VSS and CTS as well as brake - allowing better compression braking as   
   >> well as transparent engagement and cold operation.   
   >>   
   >   
   >   This is a 700R4 ... I'll have to check the vacuum system diagrams to   
   >see what the original setup was , there may have been a thermo switch in   
   >there somewhere . Lockup will be more important for trips should I use   
   >the truck . Around here in the "mountains" of the southern Ozarks it's   
   >not likely to be locked up all that much - but I do want it functional .   
    early 400 R4 setup uses vac switch and brake light switch external to   
   the trans and has a 4th gear clutch applied switch and a momentary 4/3   
   downshift switch inside the trans   
      
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