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|    Bob La Londe to All    |
|    Machining Aluminum Dry    |
|    05 Nov 24 16:40:54    |
      From: none@none.com99              First off let me emphasize I firmly believe based on hearsay, direct       knowledge, experience, and the opinions of experts that a flood of water       soluble cutting coolant like (but not limited to) SC520 and water is the       magic sauce.              In my journey to that conclusion I tried a variety of other options from       standing there for hours with a spray can of WD40, to crappy little home       made mist systems, to brushed on cutting oil, to air blast, to vortex       tubes, and even ran flood *transmission fluid for a while. Flood       transmission fluid was the best until I went to flood water soluble       coolant.              As I bragged shamelessly about in another post I finally got around to       buying another CNC wood ripper. Wood Ripper 2. Wood Ripper 1 has been       disassembled and the parts stacked out of the way for some time. Like       with Wood Ripper 1, Wood Ripper 2 was not intended to be used with       metals. Atleast not initially, but now some of the projects seeping       into my front brain involve sheet aluminum. I suspect some aluminum       cutting will be coming along sooner than originally planned.              Now before anybody says, "Well I cut aluminum dry or with just a little       cutting oil brushed on all the time," I know. I actually do too. On       the manual knee mill I cut blanks square and to length all the time       before taking them over to one of the CNC mills. A very light spray of       WD40 is what I usually go with. Tap Magic is a little better, but a       spray can of WD40 is so much easier. A quick sprits and wave and start       turning the handle almost as fast as I can. Typically I make a rough       pass in climb to remove the bulk and a spring pass in conventional to       clean it up. I know that may sound backwards to some, but it works. I       do this with a 1/2 inch 3 Flute Alumacut mill from *Rogue Systems Inc,       and the one in the tool tray by that machine is several years old. With       smaller mills I have run into problems, but that big old polished 1/2       inch mill is amazing. Chips just fly, and big ones. Once it gets a       little warm on the spring pass it can throw chips back on the finished       surface and they will stick if it doesn't get a sprits of WD first.              Well on the new Onefinitey Elite I'd need an enclosure 64 x 68 inches       roughly square (bigger really) and the mother of catch basins to run       flood coolant.              When I was still fighting flood every way I could I tried some of the       coatings that are supposed to be the juice for aluminum, and honestly...       well they aren't. ZrN, PVD Diamond, etc.              So now with this new machine coming into the shop I am regressing. I'm       looking for a less than full flood answer to cutting aluminum without       chip welding, breaking cutters, and ruining work pieces. So far my best       compromise might be spray mist with a vacuum recovery system. Hopefully       the liquid from the mist would drop out in the separator like chips do.              For now my conclusion is still that based on hearsay, direct knowledge,       experience, and the opinions of experts that a flood of water soluble       cutting coolant like (but not limited to) SC520 and water is the magic       sauce.              * Yes flood transmission fluid worked, the parts looked great, cutter       life was very good, and my shop smelled like a turbo hydro 350 burning       up because somebody put the wrong clutch piston in it during a rebuild.       It would consume the fluid. Either burning it or vaporizing it, but it       produced great results.              ** Rogue Systems Inc is a small (one man maybe) CNC grinding shop in       the PNW (No Snag, I don't think he's a slug) that produces a range of       solid carbide ball nose and square end mills sold on eBay and on his own       website. Carbide Tool Source. His Alumacut end mills are every bit as       good as any other aluminum geometry mill I have tried and a little       cheaper than most. He also makes the least expensive solid carbide       multi flute single form thread mills I have run across. Well and a few       other things. Solid carbide boring bars, multi form thread mills, and       some other cool stuff.                                          --       Bob La Londe       CNC Molds N Stuff                     --       This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software.       www.avg.com              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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