From: clare@snyder.on.ca
On Wed, 13 Nov 2024 16:09:30 -0600, Snag wrote:
>On 11/13/2024 3:54 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
>> On 11/13/2024 2:15 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
>>> On Wed, 13 Nov 2024 13:29:54 -0700, Bob La Londe
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11/13/2024 12:44 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
>>>>> "Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:vh2s43$2b5ip$1@dont-email.me...
>>>>>
>>>>> I think I mentioned it in another thread. Pickup trucks (classic bath
>>>>> tub bed and std cab on a frame) are usually not very good unless they
>>>>> have a load in the bed. A 2wd open diff pickup would not be my choice
>>>>> either that being said from 2001-2017 all my new service trucks were
>>>>> 2WD
>>>>> with auto locking diffs. (Chevy work trucks) With the normal load of
>>>>> tools, wire, and hardware they were "okay." I did not unload them
>>>>> to go
>>>>> hunting for instance. As long as I stuck to the main trails until I
>>>>> bailed out to walk I didn't even think about it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course tires make a big difference. When I ran trap lines back in
>>>>> the 80s I used a Ford F150 2WD with stock diff and 31 x 10.5 tires.
>>>>> With all my traps, coolers, and camp gear it did quite well. If I
>>>>> remembered to air down all four) it was passable on most sand, but it
>>>>> would still sink in bottomless sugar sand. I got it stuck a couple
>>>>> times, but always got it out on my own. Sometimes it took all day, but
>>>>> that is the life of a wannabe professional outdoorsman. Okay, my first
>>>>> year I used a Plymouth Volare station wagon. LOL I think if it had
>>>>> the
>>>>> same tires it would have been better than the pickup.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob La Londe
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> Ramblers did well in the Baja 500.
>>>>>
>>>>> That definitely applied to my Ranger in 2WD. It was better in 4WD. If I
>>>>> could get in somewhere with the bed empty I was sure to be able to get
>>>>> out with a load of firewood. Only dirt bike skid recovery reflexes let
>>>>> me drive the Ranger in 2WD on partly dry, partly icy pavement. A
>>>>> particularly difficult icy commute home helped convince me to buy the
>>>>> AWD CRV which was vastly better with (and good without) sticky
>>>>> hydrophilic Michelin Arctic Alpine ice tires. A wet finger rubbed on
>>>>> most tires slides, on the Michelins it grabs and squeaks.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Generally the only complaint I hear about Michelin tires is the price.
>>>> When I picked up my new truck I was actually a little disappointed to
>>>> see it came with Michelin truck tires. Now I'll have to wait a few
>>>> years to wear them out so I can upgrade to some ATs. I'm just to cheap
>>>> to replace otherwise perfectly good tires.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Bob La Londe
>>>> CNC Molds N Stuff
>>> Virtually every Michelin tire I have owned has had the sidewalls
>>> checker and crack long before the tread wore out - and that goes back
>>> to early 1960s? Michelin X tires and up to my last xlts. I've never
>>> wore one out - - - - and they have hardened up to the point they would
>>> have made good "burnout tires" even on a 4 or 6 cyl vehicle.
>>> Yes, they all lasted over 6 years - but on many that was less than
>>> 30000 KM. REALLY burns to have to throw away expensive rubber with
>>> over 80% tread left!!!!!
>>
>> Virtually all tires have one major weakness. They degrade with exposure
>> to the C02 in the air. Buna (neoprene) rubber o-rings too. Buna-N,
>> Viton, and silicone much less so.
>>
>>
>
> I thought it was exposure to sunlight/UV that caused most of the
>sidewall degradation ... or are those aftermarket tire covers (in
>particular for RV's and campers) just another scam ?
It's not Co2 - it's OZONE - which is produced by sunlight acting on
oxygen. This brakes down polymers with dual bonds. Some rubbers are a
LOT more succeptible to Ozone damage than others.
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