From: none@none.com99   
      
   On 2/18/2025 5:11 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:   
   > On 2/18/2025 5:09 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:   
   >> Richard kind of got me wound up.  Well, Jim is not totally blameless   
   >> either.   
   >>   
   >> I've got a few electric winches, and a couple trailers suitable for   
   >> making use of them to haul vehicles and such.  The thing is none of   
   >> them are really setup for it.  The little tandem axle flat bed had a   
   >> receiver tube welded on the tongue for a draw bar mounted winch, and I   
   >> added a similar type contraption to the bigger goose neck trailer.   
   >> You might recall I bragged about my well rounded master of no trades   
   >> ability hauling a couple full size 3/4 ton trucks on the goose neck   
   >> last year. Well both trailers have been used to haul vehicles and in   
   >> most cases they have been loaded with an 8oolb electric winch.  The   
   >> tractor just drives right up the ramps on the goose neck, and my   
   >> scissor lifts would creep up the ramps on the low trailers after I   
   >> made arched ramps for them.   
   >>   
   >> I've decided to semi permanently mount the 8000lb winch on the low   
   >> trailer. I have more vehicles to move and the trailer will always have   
   >> more value with a 4 ton Warn on the front.  I had a cheesy mount on   
   >> it, and it worked as I described above, but I decided to add a couple   
   >> pieces of C-channel inside the C-channel frame in the front for a nice   
   >> clean bolt through mount.  The long term goal is to build a trailer   
   >> tool box around it after I have it all figured out, convert the   
   >> trailer to a 7 pin plug for battery charging, and when I need to use   
   >> it I can snatch a couple deep cycles out of one of the boats.  That   
   >> way everything can be covered and locked up, and right there when I   
   >> need to go.  I'll probably even leave tie straps, chains, farm jack,   
   >> and a few other things (like the winch controller) in the box as well.   
   >>   
   >> Well since you guys got me wound up I have spent most of the after   
   >> noon taking things apart, salvaging c-channel from a scrapped boat   
   >> trailer, cutting, grinding, and measuring just to get "prepared" to   
   >> weld in one piece of C-channel about 28 inches long.  The other piece   
   >> is already there.   
   >>   
   >> As, I have been preparing my debacle I happened to look at the welds   
   >> on the piece of C-Channel already there.  Okay.  I'm not sure it   
   >> qualifies as a UBS weld other than they haven't broken. Ugly But   
   >> Strong?  No. Snot weld that miraculously didn't break would be more   
   >> accurate.   
   >>   
   >> The nice thing having the now mostly defunct draw bar mount for the   
   >> winch is it will make a great template for the bolt holes to mount the   
   >> inch.  Well, that and I can cut the front plate out and weld it to   
   >> trailer to mount the fair lead.  Not sure where exactly yet.  The   
   >> front of the bed frame would be easiest, but In front of the bed might   
   >> be better if a little more work.   
   >>   
   >> Well, now I need to wander back outside and mark that piece of channel   
   >> for cutting to fit.   
   >>   
   >   
   >   
   > I know I didn't mention the goose neck plans.  I plan something similar   
   > for it, but with a 12000 lb Badlands winch.  I have a draw bar mount for   
   > it that is rated for 12000lbs, but I think a solid mount on the trailer   
   > will be much less headache doing things like dragging a shipping   
   > container up on the trailer.  Yeah, that's something I need to do too.   
      
   Prepping the Job:   
      
   Still haven't done any welding.  Cut the new piece to length and   
   discovered it was bowed.  Not a lot, but enough the winch would have set   
   funny.  The old piece is about flat, and the new piece was bowed up in   
   the middle.  Set it on top across the frame of the tongue and took a ten   
   pound hammer to it.  Took three blows.  Close enough.  I think I'm   
   getting old.  In days past I would have set the hammer on the work to   
   measure my stroke before drawing up the hammer, but that was just to   
   darn much work.  I drew up from the ground and told myself I just   
   wouldn't miss, and I didn't.   
      
   Then grinding off old paint and the protective coat of light rust steel   
   gets here in the desert.  I must be getting old, or more likely rode   
   hard and put up wet one to many times.  Used to be I wouldn't quit until   
   the job was done, but not today.  I'm the one that's done.   
      
   Yeah, The Amp Hours Are Worth The Price:   
      
   Oh, yeah.  Big AH batteries.  I mentioned a while back I bought 4 8AH   
   batteries for my cordless stuff because the bigger batteries not only   
   last longer, but seemed to be able to feed current to the tool motors   
   better.  I did all the cutting and grind, cutting old welds, sizing   
   stock, stripping paint, etc with my cordless angle grinder and one of   
   those batteries.  It doesn't have the power of a corded grinder, but it   
   didn't feel like it was slowing me down either.   
      
   Stripping Steel:   
      
   You might also recall my adventures with the best disc for removing   
   paint, rust, and scale.  I've come to a conclusion.  Its a coarse grit   
   hard disc.  Leaves a crappy finish compared to a flap disc or a stripper   
   wheel, but it lasts and doesn't seem to glaze over or get clogged up as   
   bad as they do.   
      
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   Bob La Londe   
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