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   Bob La Londe to Bob La Londe   
   Re: Speaking Of Welding - The Job, Big A   
   19 Feb 25 14:04:23   
   
   From: none@none.com99   
      
   On 2/19/2025 12:24 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:   
   > On 2/19/2025 5:38 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:   
   >> "Bob La Londe"  wrote in message news:vp3bqn$1utuo$1@dont-email.me...   
   >>   
   >>> I must be getting old, or more likely rode hard and put up wet one to   
   >>> many times.  Used to be I wouldn't quit until the job was done, but   
   >>> not today. I'm the one that's done.   
   >>   
   >> You're lucky you can do anything outdoors. I have plans and incomplete   
   >> projects waiting too, but snow > rain > deep freeze have locked   
   >> everything outside into a glacier here. I barely cleared the car and   
   >> shoveled a path to the road in the brief gap between the rain and   
   >> freeze, now it's a struggle even to bring in firewood.   
   >>   
   >> TV weather: "It's like 2 below with the wind chill."   
   >> This isn't the best time of the year to import wind from Canada,   
   >> please wait for July and August.   
   >   
   > I spent a grand total of one winter in cold and snow.  That was enough   
   > for me.  I've heard people say you can dress for cold, but you can't   
   > dress for heat.   
   >   
   > Well, that's kind true, but...   
   >   
   > You can dress for cold, but it can also restrict your movement.  You can   
   > walk down the driveway to check the mail if you have plowed the snow out   
   > of the way first, but that implies you can dress for cold, but not snow.   
   >   In real cold you lose dexterity.  Either from gloves, the cold, or   
   > frost bite.  If there is ice, you can dress for cold by wearing cleats.   
   > Yeah, I can walk on ice with ordinary shoes too, but it takes more care,   
   > and may limit other things I can do.   
   >   
   > Growing up I had summer jobs "chopping cotton," and working in the grape   
   > harvest.  I wore a loose long sleeve shirt, jeans, and a hat.  Under the   
   > shade of the packing shed I could get away with lighter gear, but in the   
   > sun those who did now have a higher risk of skin cancer.  Some   
   > overheated and dropped.  On a hot summer day I have also lose dexterity   
   > when work.  I either wear gloves or tools and materials laying out in   
   > the sun will burn my hands.  You can also get conditioned (to some   
   > extent) for the heat, and learn good practices.  Drink water before you   
   > get thirsty.  When you actually get thirsty and push through you are   
   > dehydrated and pushing through can make you dangerously dehydrated.  It   
   > may not be cool in the shade, but a little shade and some water for a   
   > short break is all you need if you are conditioned to tolerate the heat.   
   >   To get conditioned you have to work in it.   
   >   
   > In the end I can work more effectively on a 110F degree day in SW   
   > Arizona more effectively than I can on a 5F day in Northern Ohio.   
   >   
   > However those aren't extremes.  On a 115-120+ day in Arizona (yes we   
   > have them fairly often) You really need to limit your exposure, and be   
   > aware of conditions that are even worse than the ambient temperature.   
   > Pulling wire in an attic is so dangerous I used to limit myself to no   
   > more than 5-10 minutes at a time up the ladder.  Working in a hot black   
   > asphalt parking lot is nearly as dangerous.  I say nearly, because you   
   > can always jump in your truck to get out of the sun for a few minutes.   
   > You can't get out of the heat in an attic except by getting out of the   
   > attic.   
   >   
   > I've never had to work in 20F below, but as restricted as I was a 5F   
   > above I imagine its just as limiting as work in a 120F+ degrees in the   
   > desert.   
   >   
   > I brag or show off my winter time weather, but you won't hear much   
   > except complaining from me if I have to work outside in July and August.   
   >   
   > As to conditioning... kids are stupid.  My friends and I used to play   
   > outside in the desert all summer long.  Many a time I imagine somebody's   
   > garden hose saved us from closer to dangerous dehydration than we knew.   
   > We also got conditioned to the heat.  Not impervious, but conditioned to   
   > tolerate it and knowledgeable about how to manage it.  Riding my   
   > motorcycle back across the Sonoran desert to get home there was more   
   > than once I pulled off at any sign of farming to dunk my shirt and my   
   > helmet in a canal to cool off.  It dries out quick, but it adds 30 miles   
   > to your range.  Nearly as much as a drink of cool (not cold) water and a   
   > few minutes break in the shade.   
   >   
   > The thing I never learned to manage was hot and humid.  If there is a   
   > way I can't fathom it.  In Northern Ohio I saw what I called 90/90   
   > plenty of days in the summer.  Over 90 degrees and over 90% humidity.   
   > That was just miserable.  When I saw temps approaching   
      
   CORRECTION:  Approaching 100, not 110.  Never saw temps over a 100 in   
   Ohio.   
      
     my   
   > grandmother said read the obits in the next few days and you will see   
   > many older people without air conditioning who succumbed in their homes.   
   >   I could work for a little while, but because I had no natural cooling   
   > at those high humidities I had to take twice the breaks to recover.  I   
   > can't imagine living and working in the old south where they see 110F+   
   > and 90-99% humidity routinely.   
   >   
   > See, you got me all wound up again Jim.  I want to get outside and get   
   > more work done before summer.   
   >   
   >   
      
      
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