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   Bob La Londe to Bob La Londe   
   Re: Speaking Of Welding   
   25 Feb 25 20:22:30   
   
   From: none@none.com99   
      
   On 2/18/2025 5:09 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:   
   > Richard kind of got me wound up.  Well, Jim is not totally blameless   
   > either.   
   >   
   > I've got a few electric winches, and a couple trailers suitable for   
   > making use of them to haul vehicles and such.  The thing is none of them   
   > are really setup for it.  The little tandem axle flat bed had a receiver   
   > tube welded on the tongue for a draw bar mounted winch, and I added a   
   > similar type contraption to the bigger goose neck trailer.  You might   
   > recall I bragged about my well rounded master of no trades ability   
   > hauling a couple full size 3/4 ton trucks on the goose neck last year.   
   > Well both trailers have been used to haul vehicles and in most cases   
   > they have been loaded with an 8oolb electric winch.  The tractor just   
   > drives right up the ramps on the goose neck, and my scissor lifts would   
   > creep up the ramps on the low trailers after I made arched ramps for them.   
   >   
   > I've decided to semi permanently mount the 8000lb winch on the low   
   > trailer. I have more vehicles to move and the trailer will always have   
   > more value with a 4 ton Warn on the front.  I had a cheesy mount on it,   
   > and it worked as I described above, but I decided to add a couple pieces   
   > of C-channel inside the C-channel frame in the front for a nice clean   
   > bolt through mount.  The long term goal is to build a trailer tool box   
   > around it after I have it all figured out, convert the trailer to a 7   
   > pin plug for battery charging, and when I need to use it I can snatch a   
   > couple deep cycles out of one of the boats.  That way everything can be   
   > covered and locked up, and right there when I need to go.  I'll probably   
   > even leave tie straps, chains, farm jack, and a few other things (like   
   > the winch controller) in the box as well.   
   >   
   > Well since you guys got me wound up I have spent most of the after noon   
   > taking things apart, salvaging c-channel from a scrapped boat trailer,   
   > cutting, grinding, and measuring just to get "prepared" to weld in one   
   > piece of C-channel about 28 inches long.  The other piece is already there.   
   >   
   > As, I have been preparing my debacle I happened to look at the welds on   
   > the piece of C-Channel already there.  Okay.  I'm not sure it qualifies   
   > as a UBS weld other than they haven't broken. Ugly But Strong?  No. Snot   
   > weld that miraculously didn't break would be more accurate.   
   >   
   > The nice thing having the now mostly defunct draw bar mount for the   
   > winch is it will make a great template for the bolt holes to mount the   
   > inch.  Well, that and I can cut the front plate out and weld it to   
   > trailer to mount the fair lead.  Not sure where exactly yet.  The front   
   > of the bed frame would be easiest, but In front of the bed might be   
   > better if a little more work.   
   >   
   > Well, now I need to wander back outside and mark that piece of channel   
   > for cutting to fit.   
      
   I had a nice platform welded inside the frame in the tongue, but I just   
   wasn't happy with it.  It was a little lower than I would like.  I   
   planned to put the fair lead in the front rail of the trailer just above   
   the bed.  The winch would have been a little low.  The cable would have   
   had to go up to go through where I wanted to mount the fair lead.  I   
   just didn't like it.  Then I ran across a couple piece of receiver tube   
   I'd scavenged from something else.  I punched some holes in the them,   
   bolted them to the bottom of the winch, and then welded them to the   
   platform I'd built for mounting.  It puts the cable perfectly in line   
   with where I want to put the fair lead.  The cable will come through   
   about 2 inches above the bed, just brushing the bottom roller, and   
   almost perfectly straight when the drum is full.  When half empty it   
   won't even touch the rollers.  When its down to the last layer of wrap   
   (maximum cable out that's safe to pull) it will just touch the top   
   roller when its straight out.   
      
   Pain in the patootie, ain't got the right chit, and it all works out.   
   Still looking for a battery box.  I don't plan to leave a battery on the   
   trailer, but I do plan to wire it up so when I'm pulling the trailer the   
   truck will charge the battery just like it does the break away battery   
   on the goose neck or the fifth wheel.  I reckon I'm just going to have   
   to waste a day making a box.  Can't find anything I like.   
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
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