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|    Bob La Londe to Bob La Londe    |
|    Re: Batteries - EV Conversion (1/2)    |
|    03 Mar 25 09:04:03    |
      From: none@none.com99              On 2/26/2025 4:38 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:       > Back Story: About 3-1/2 to 4 years ago my dad had a brain tumor       > removed, and it came to my attention that he was not managing their       > affairs very well. He and my mom were receiving social security, and he       > was doing various handyman type work. He had some other assets, but he       > was hoarding them instead of using them. I stepped in and took over for       > a little while, but out of respect I kept him in the loop. When he       > would tell me something, I'd put in my time and work to make it happen       > and find out how it would work out and he would try to horse trade with       > me I quit.       >       > Example: He said he would like to sell a fifth wheel trailer he owned.       > I looked it, up checked the market, found how much others selling the       > exact same trailer were asking, and how long theirs had been on the       > market I knew for a fact what they wouldn't sell for, and what I would       > have to settle for in order to sell it. He tried to negotiate with me.       > He literally burned my time without regard. I'd have been ahead if I       > had just made stuff in the shop and given him money. That was the       > proverbial straw. I'm not faulting him. He literally had a hole in his       > head. Not his fault. He just wouldn't let me do what I needed to do       > without throwing my time in the fire.       >       > One thing I did do was line up a renter for a commercial property he       > owned. I was working out the deal at the same time as my peeve, and       > then turned the renter over to him because I wasn't going to have my       > time wasted again.       >       > My dad passed away a year ago, and I wound up taking over everything       > again. I'm actually a bit overwhelmed, but that's beside the point. At       > least because of the time my dad was recovering from his brain surgery I       > had all his account names, passwords, and I have his cell phone. I was       > able to just step in and make short term decisions quickly.       >       > Among other things I took over working with the renter until they moved       > out at the end of last year. They were from out of the region, using       > the property as their local base of operations for a solar generating       > station they were working on. While they were here (for three years)       > they accumulated some stuff. Trying to get out before the end of the       > year they had a truck sitting in the yard with a blown engine they       > wanted to just get rid of. I told them if they couldn't rid of it they       > could leave it behind, but they would have to provide the title or I       > would charge them what it cost me to have it hauled away. I figured       > worst case scenario with the title I could load the truck on one of my       > trailers and get a few hundred bucks from a salvage yard with the title.       > Enough to make up for my time to do it. A few weeks later the title       > arrived in the mail.       >       > I got to looking at the truck and its better, and worse than I thought.       > The motor is not rebuildable. They already had it out of the truck       > laying on the ground half apart. All of the front trim, radiator, grill       > parts are all out laying in the bed of the truck. Probably made it       > easier to pull the motor. They had told me "The motor is completely       > blown up, but the transmission is good." I got to looking at it and the       > body is straight. All the trim is there. The interior is full of       > desert dust as any vehicle that sets around here gets, but its intact       > and in good shape. If it had a good motor (less than 3 grand for a reman       > (4.7L) long block, and a couple grand in additional parts to do it       > right), it could be made into a decent truck again. The only real       > cosmetic negative is for some reason beyond my understanding one end of       > the front bumper is bent up and out. Not impact or wreck damage. Maybe       > getting pulled out the sand or something by somebody who doesn't know ho       > to do a pull. The sheet metal behind it is all perfect for its age.       > 2013 Dodge Ram 1500 Extended Cab. Its a Dodge. I am sure there is       > stuff that doesn't work, but cosmetically it could be a nice truck.       >       > The thing is I don't need a truck for serious truck things right now. I       > bought the new F250 FX4 back around the end of August last year for       > truck things. With its 6.8L engine it develops more horsepower and       > torque than the 6.6L turbo diesel in the 07 Silverado I sold last year.       > There is one thing though. The F250 only averages about 11.8 mpg.       >       > Finally getting to the point:       >       > I got it in my mind to do AN EV conversion on that Dodge. Not for heavy       > hauling or road trips, but for going to the hardware store. A few       > sheets of plywood. A couple bags of ready mix. That sort of thing.       >       > I kinda had a plan. I was going to use LiFePo batteries instead of       > lithium Ion because they are safer. Since its short range it wouldn't       > matter. 100 miles range would be fantastic. 50 miles range would be       > more than adequate. This lets out the obviously killer deal in EV       > motors. Ford released the Mach-E crate motor dirt cheap. I mean cheap.       > I think the original OEM price was around $3-4K, but you can buy them       > from a number of reputable sources including the big name racing stores       > for $1.5K or less. Power and torque are very good. It also requires a       > 400V battery. That lets out cheap battery options. It doesn't come       > with a controller, inverter, charger, etc. I could make any gear train       > parts, but the rest adds up, and the companies that have proven gear to       > work with it aren't even selling any of it to the unannointed. Basically       > if you buy that motor hoping to do an EV conversion you will be bread       > boarding everything from scratch or you will have to turn your vehicle       > and motor over to one of the CABAL and pay them to do everything.       > Pricing is very closed mouth, but those who have dared to defy the       > priesthood have said the minimum cost is around 20 grand and it goes up       > very quickly from there. Basically it makes it all pointless. Might as       > well drop a remanufactured 4.7L gasser in it be out 6 grand including       > all new front/top of the engine stuff.       >       > The thing is I don't necessarily need the 285 true horsepower of the       > Ford Mach-E. A Hyper-9 is only 144 volts nominal 90ish horsepower. It       > would work just fine for a local only surface street pickup truck with a       > gear box instead of a transmission, and its only about 5 times the price       > of the Ford Mach-E crate motor. Still needs controller/inverter/       > charger/batteries, etc.       >              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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