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   Message 214,170 of 215,319   
   Snag to Bob La Londe   
   Re: Gasless Flux Core - Surprise   
   25 Mar 25 17:01:38   
   
   From: Snag_one@msn.com   
      
   On 3/24/2025 2:13 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:   
   > I don't follow all the new products for welding, but there always seems   
   > to be something out there that surprises me.   
   >   
   > GMAW or MIG is usually DCEP   
   > C25 Steel / Tri-mix SS / Argon or Ar/He Aluminum --- and others.   
   >   
   > FCAW   
   > DCEP for dual shield   
   > DCEN for gasless   
   >   
   > Having my morning coffee and surfing YouTube videos this morning I ran   
   > across a gasless flux core wire for stainless and it says to run DCEP.   
   > Blue Demon WMS312LCF.   
   >   
   > I use gas less flux core fairly regularly working outdoors.   I do have   
   > a DC power TIG supply that can run stick, but the little   
   > Miller/Hobart/Weldmark (has all three names on the machine) 187 MIG   
   > machine is a lot handier to drag outside.  For steel I run DCEN with   
   > FCAW wire.  I was surprised by the DCEP call out on the 312LCF.  I   
   > haven't bought any, but it might be handy for quick and dirty jobs like   
   > welding up replacement BBQ grills.   
   >   
   > Have any of you guys run stainless FCAW gasless wire?  What did you   
   > think of it?   
   >   
   > I watched a couple videos and the welds look cleaner than most FCAW   
   > welds, but there was a shell of slag you need to pop off with your slag   
   > hammer like burning stick.  It also looked a little ropey like maybe   
   > they were running a little cold, but I've only made a couple stainless   
   > welds (304) in my life, and I did that with TIG.   
   >   
      I have a couple of rolls of flux core SS , one is 309 the other is   
   missing part of the label so I don't know but I think it too is 309 . My   
   experience was that the bead starts out cold and tall , but get a half   
   inch down the bead and it goes too hot . I was welding exhaust pipe so   
   that's probably not a fair test . That was also using my old 110V MIG   
   machine IIRC .   
      I've also got some 309L/.023 solid wire but I don't have the proper   
   shield gas for it . Neither straight CO2 nor argon worked well .   
   --   
   Snag   
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   are being silenced so that   
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