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   On 4/12/2025 4:49 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:   
   > "Bob La Londe"  wrote in message news:vtepvd$1fud7$1@dont-email.me...   
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   > On 4/12/2025 3:20 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:   
   >> "Bob La Londe"  wrote in message news:vtea79$120nh$1@dont-email.me...   
   >>   
   >> On 4/11/2025 8:35 PM, Snag wrote:   
   >>>    Well , the point is moot now cuz I got one ...   
   >>   
   >> I have three hydraulic shop presses, but for many small jobs my arbor   
   >> press is much faster and more convenient.  I easily use the arbor press   
   >> hundreds of times more often than all the hydraulic presses combined.   
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   >>   
   >> I tend to use the milling vise as a light duty press because alignment   
   >> on parallels etc is easier. The handle force isn't excessive for 1000   
   >> Lbs of clamping pressure.   
   >>   
   > Did I mentioned I have a 6 ton (supposedly) arbor press.   
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   > Bob La Londe   
   > CNC Molds N Stuff   
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   > My equipment is meant for the relatively light work typical of   
   > electronics and consists of machines appropriate to industrial model,   
   > tool makers or prototyping shops, i.e. in the space between hobby and   
   > production where I operated.   
      
   That is a broad space and all of it overlaps.  I started selling molds   
   made on a Taig CNC mill years ago.   
      
      
   > An ad for the Heavy 10 lathe recommends it   
   > for short production, tool-room and maintenance. The collection would   
   > have been an inventor's dream in the 1960s when it was all new and   
   > tight, now it shows its 60+ year age.   
      
   Plenty of wannabe experts will say that old stuff is better than many of   
   the new import machines I run today.  They would be wrong.  If they were   
   both in new condition at the same time it might be, but its rare a 60   
   year old machine is going to be better.   
      
   >   
   > It is NOT money-making production machinery which is why it was   
   > available and affordable. It's probably too small for practical ore   
   > processing projects, the machines I've made with it challenged its   
   > capacity. Segway had a 15" lathe and 12x48(?) Bridgeport, both CNC,   
      
   12x48 was likely the table size.  The series 1 I have (still on the   
   trailer) may have a table that size, but if I recall its travel is   
   either 11 or 12 by 18.  I have a mill (manual) in the back that is sold   
   as a 12 x54, but its travels are 16 by 35 (maybe 36).   
      
   > which accommodated larger projects. Both were more awkward to use than   
   > my machines for my usually cut-and-try small parts and off-sized repairs.   
   >   
      
   I have debated something like a watch maker's lathe for smaller parts,   
   but I can usually muddle by with the 14x40.   I also consider the Taig   
   5C CNC lathe.  Its basically a Taig mill with a lathe spindle instead of   
   a column.  I kept the Harbor Freight 8.5x18 for small parts, but I   
   haven't turned it on in over a year.  Might be time to use it as a boat   
   anchor, and hope the rope breaks.  Nah, it still works kinda sorta.   
      
      
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