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   Richard Smith to Jim Wilkins   
   Re: rod-mill project - "mains" electric    
   14 Apr 25 20:14:20   
   
   From: null@void.com   
      
   "Jim Wilkins"  writes:   
      
   > "Richard Smith"  wrote in message news:m1ldsc42kf.fsf@void.com...   
   >   
   >>If using flat-belts (or any other belt drive) that needs 2   
   >>countershafts, for a 3-stage speed reduction?   
   >   
   > https://woodgears.ca/big_bandsaw/pulley.html   
   >   
   > ...   
      
   Hi again   
      
   Prices came in on 0.75kW motors = 1HP.   
      
   This is all "clean new start" - don't have to fit in with anything   
   before.   
      
   "Inherently" single-phase motor:   
      
   1ph 4-pole motor - so on 50Hz is 1500rpm.   
   Coming in at about GBP160, then tax at 20%   
      
      
   Convert 1ph to 3ph and get 2nd-hand 3ph electric motors:   
      
   "Digital" converter - GBP250 for 1HP - then tax.   
   Is 240V only (GBP420 if can do 440V - "star and delta")   
   So needs "dual voltage" motor - assured most in last 30 years are (??)   
   Says - typically fine for one-person user - only one machine at a time   
   - but can start ancilliaries like pumps etc. after big machine   
   running.  Not "DOL" - has to be simple switch.   
   That's about 1HP converter can drive 1HP motor IF the digital   
   converter does a "soft-start" - and if one motor already running,   
   cannot "soft-start" the "new" motor (stating the obvious).   
      
   Didn't ask if offers speed-control - ability to control over +-30%   
   range would be a blessing - not have to vary speed with different   
   pulleys.   
      
   The "digital" 1ph-to-3ph is a good brand.   
      
   Folk - any guidance?   
      
   It would do me a lot of good to get this project done, so I am not   
   going to sweat this too much - in the absence of being shown the way,   
   I will likely get the single-phase 0.75kW motor, do the belts and see   
   this thing running a.s.a.p.   
   In a lifetime, sometimes it's better to get that next step done and   
   know all about what you'd do next when it comes around again.   
      
   Regards, Rich S   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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