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   Message 214,295 of 215,367   
   Bob La Londe to Joe Gwinn   
   Re: Moving a 40ft High Cube - SHELVES   
   09 May 25 12:35:44   
   
   From: none@none.com99   
      
   On 5/9/2025 8:48 AM, Joe Gwinn wrote:   
   > On Wed, 7 May 2025 13:15:35 -0700, Bob La Londe    
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 5/4/2025 3:40 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:   
   >>> A buddy of mine hauls containers from the coast and sells them locally.   
   >>> He picked up 3 for a customer and after he got back with the third one   
   >>> they decided they only wanted two right now.  He offered it to me   
   >>> delivered for a couple hundred bucks less than the before delivery and   
   >>> tax price of the local yard full of ex border wall containers.  I didn't   
   >>> take advantage of my buddy.  I know what he pays for them.   
   >>>   
   >>> The concrete slab behind my shop is where I want it, but it was   
   >>> completely full of scrap, so I had him drop it next to the slab on some   
   >>> timbers (old guard rail posts) that would leave it sitting above the slab.   
   >>>   
   >>> I spent all day yesterday and most of the day today moving steel, old   
   >>> machinery, and trash.  It even inspired me to put several large pieces   
   >>> in the dumpster that I had been keeping just in case.  An old utility   
   >>> trailer body, an old DeWalt industrial radial arm saw the last of the   
   >>> steel bins full of stuff that came with the steel work bench John Apple   
   >>> gave me.   
   >>>   
   >>> I thought I might be able to push the container onto the slab with my   
   >>> little tractor, but that just wasn't working.  I'd push one end in and   
   >>> the other would swing out.  I kind of expected that.  At about 8500 lbs   
   >>> it far exceeds the 750 rated load of the tractor bucket, so lifting one   
   >>> end and carrying it into place was definitely out.   
   >>>   
   >>> I ran a chain through the foot on the container, ran another chain   
   >>> around the safety bollard (concrete filled six inch well casing) by my   
   >>> rear overhead door and stuck a come-a-long in between the two chains.   
   >>> Doubled up of course.  With the chains and cable anchoring one end I can   
   >>> bump the other end with the tractor buck and it moves several inches.   
   >>> With the tractor up against the container at that end, the tires spun   
   >>> down into the dirt, the bucket dug in, and the parking brake on I can   
   >>> move the end with the chains an inch or two at a stroke with the come-a-   
   >>> long.  It feels like the more of the weight that is on the concrete the   
   >>> easier it gets.  By that I mean it feels the same, but my arms are   
   >>> getting weaker and I can still move it so...   
   >>>   
   >>> I've got it about half way in the slab right now.  Had to take a break   
   >>> and get some water.  Well that's enough screwing around.  Back to work.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> I think I've settled on the ninety by twenty-four by ninety heavy duty   
   >> shelves from Home Depot. With a height of ninety inches, that leaves me   
   >> a little less than two feet on the top shelf to the ceiling. They aren't   
   >> cheap. I was thinking five sets of shelves down each side. That's a fair   
   >> amount of money. I was wrong.   
   >>   
   >> The shelves are capable of linking together, and they come with five   
   >> shelves per set. I don't really need a bottom shelf, and I was thinking   
   >> for the first 2 sets by the door I would leave out half the shelving so   
   >> I could roll in a table saw, bandsaw, miter saw on a stand, et cetera.   
   >> That's all stuff I don't use all that often, and when I do I prefer to   
   >> use it outdoors. That means with 3 shelving sets I can easily have 5   
   >> spans. I'm not even worried about stability loss from not using a bottom   
   >> shelf. Linking them together adds some of that back, and if I still feel   
   >> it needs more they come with tabs welded on the uprights for anchoring   
   >> to a floor. I'm not crazy about drilling holes in the floor of the   
   >> container, but if I have to make that compromise to get other things to   
   >> come together, I will. It will leave a little 3 feet at 1 end or the   
   >> other of wall space, with shelves, but I can always get a small yellow   
   >> shelving unit or build one if I need more shelves.   
   >   
   > Many years ago I was also looking for adjustable wire-shelf shelving,   
   > and found that buying directly from industrial sources was far   
   > cheaper, and yielded far better shelving.   
   >   
   > Joe   
      
      
   Can you make some suggestions on where to look?  I did quite a bit of   
   searching online including "industrial suppliers" and everything was   
   more expensive except a similar set from CostCo with one fewer set of   
   shelf hardware in each box.   
      
   I can find actual industrial pallet racking from a number of sources,   
   but this intermediate heavy duty shelving not so much.  One of my goals   
   here is to be able (for atleast the first several years anyway) to walk   
   from front to back unobstructed.  With pallet racking that would only be   
   possible if I split into two much smaller men.   
      
   I have built some very heavy duty shelving many times from 2x   
   construction lumber and plywood, but being joined with framing nails and   
   ring nails means its not easily reconfigurable.  At one time I was   
   making so much of it I had two framing nailers so I could swap from   
   framing to sheeting without reloading my gun.   
      
   FYI:  The old Harbor Freight framing nailer will work for about 1000   
   framing nails before it blows a head gasket.  Then, it seems nothing you   
   do will keep it sealed up.  Rigid and Porter cable... no problems so far.   
      
   I think for now I'll just have to settle for shelving down one side.   
   Well, at least until another big customer pays me for a big job.   
      
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