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   Klaus Schadenfreude to All   
   Re: "[T]he right secured by the Second A   
   17 May 25 12:50:26   
   
   ing.cocksucking.dwarf.com> 3eb82e63   
   XPost: misc.survivalism, talk.politics.guns, alt.politics   
   XPost: alt.california, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh   
   From: klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com   
      
   [Default]  Rudy "Cunt Flaps" Canoza  typed:   
      
   >I note it's time for a refresher.   
   >   
   >Some limitation on the types of arms protected by the second amendment is   
   >clearly within the scope of the amendment. Mr. Justice Scalia in the Heller   
   >decision:   
   >   
   >    There seems to us no doubt, on the basis of both text and   
   >    history, that the Second Amendment conferred an individual right   
   >    to keep and bear arms. Of course the right was *not unlimited*,   
   >    just as the First Amendment ’s right of free speech was not, see,   
   >    e.g., United States v. Williams, 553 U. S. ___ (2008). Thus, we   
   >    do not read the Second Amendment to protect the right of citizens   
   >    to carry arms for any sort of confrontation, just as we do not   
   >    read the First Amendment to protect the right of citizens to   
   >    speak for any purpose.   
   >    [...]   
   >    Like most rights, the right secured by the Second Amendment is   
   >    *not unlimited*. From Blackstone through the 19th-century cases,   
   >    commentators and courts routinely explained that the right was   
   >    not a right to keep and carry *any weapon whatsoever* in any   
   >    manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose.   
   >    [emphasis added]   
   >   
   >    https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/07-290.ZS.html   
   >   
   >   
   >You may think the right *ought* to be unlimited, but as a matter of text,   
   >history and interpretation, it is not. That is simply a fact, and crazed   
   >far-right gun crackpots, such as scooter and Francis Mark Hansen, are going to   
   >have to accommodate themselves to that fact. You do not have a right to just   
   >whatever guns you wish to have.   
      
   Nobody is claiming the right is unlimited, dwarf. But semi-auto sport   
   utility rifles and normal capacity magazines are protected under the   
   Second Amendment.   
      
   And there's nothing you can do about it. This is settled.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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