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   Bob La Londe to Bob La Londe   
   Re: metal WORKING today   
   20 May 25 18:18:41   
   
   From: none@none.com99   
      
   On 5/20/2025 6:14 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:   
   > On 5/20/2025 5:53 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:   
   >> "Bob La Londe"  wrote in message news:100j5gq$2fnms$1@dont-email.me...   
   >>   
   >> On 5/20/2025 7:13 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:   
   >>> and you are much too far away to borrow my reject* pipe bollard   
   >>   
   >> Several people said, "Just throw some pipe under it," including my buddy   
   >> who delivered it.  That doesn't really work in sand, and I was a bit   
   >> disappointed in him for that.  My method of setting it on square timbers   
   >> (reclaimed guard rail posts) as skid surfaces worked.  It was a lot of   
   >> work which I expected, but it worked just the way I envisioned.   
   >>   
   >> ------------------------------   
   >>   
   >> Needing timbers or pavement under the pipes seemed so obvious I didn't   
   >> want to insult you by mentioning it. I've kept the scrap 6x6s and   
   >> other PT the neighborhood contractor threw into his scrap pile. We   
   >> saved him several large dumpster loads by burning the untreated wood   
   >> scrap in big party bonfires, his wife supplying the snacks. The small   
   >> PT scrap blocked up the pallets I store my firewood on, to slow or   
   >> prevent their rotting. I had enough 6x6 timbers to support the shed   
   >> high enough to back the trailer underneath. It's kept logs downed in   
   >> late fall off the ground over winters.   
   >>   
   >> Pipes do tend to twist out of parallel and need to be knocked straight   
   >> again, with chocks handy to block them, they can be as much annoyance   
   >> as help. The timbers under them should be overlapped at the ends   
   >> instead of abutted, which may let the pipe force them apart.   
   >>   
   >   
   >   
   > ... and you actually have to HAVE the pipe for the job, and you have to   
   > get everything lined up so the pipes and the timbers line up with the   
   > cross beams under the container, because if you don't you can make it   
   > worse.   
   >   
   > ...and you have to level the ground where you place the container and   
   > the timbers temporarily so it doesn't roll in the wrong direction right   
   > into the sand making it worse, not better.   
   >   
   > The clear space where the container is now had a couple tons of steel,   
   > fence, aluminum etc setting there when my buddy delivered the container   
   > or I would have just had him slide it off the trailer into place.   
   >   
   > I was concerned about catching on the end of the timber in the middle,   
   > but only one actually hung and a few cranks with the farm jack allowed   
   > me to pull it right past that spot.   
   >   
   > Then when you are finished you have to put the grade back so any rain   
   > will drain away from the slab.  Everybody thinks they have a better way,   
   > but I think I did it the easiest way for the conditions and what was   
   > available.   
   >   
   > When I was contracting each time a client used the word "just" or "only"   
   > or the phrase "all you have to do" I would double the price.   
   >   
      
   I could have easily turned a half day (4 hrs more or less) job of moving   
   a container into a two job by trying to make it easier.  Time is the   
   most valuable commodity.  I don't mind hard work.  I hate making a job   
   take longer than it should.   
      
      
      
      
      
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