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   Clare Snyder to All   
   Re: Shipping Honesty   
   07 Aug 25 00:09:42   
   
   From: clare@snyder.on.ca   
      
   On Wed, 06 Aug 2025 16:06:24 -0400, Joe Gwinn    
   wrote:   
      
   >On Wed, 6 Aug 2025 12:39:45 -0700, Bob La Londe    
   >wrote:   
   >   
   >>On 8/5/2025 5:47 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:   
   >>> I've been seeing deteriorating tracking and delivery competence even   
   >>> from Amazon recently. Perhaps the problem is new AI software. My dog   
   >>> understood me better than the telephone AI I dealt with this morning.   
   >>   
   >>One of the things I really noticed with Amazon recently is blatantly   
   >>misleading or false delivery times with a twist.   
   >>   
   >>I quit buying anything important from Amazon for a few years because I   
   >>ordered some important items that had an option for a faster delivery   
   >>time.  I selected the faster delivery time (a couple days), and then it   
   >>was two weeks plus for shipping from out of the country.  Amazon tried   
   >>to claim that was the normal delivery time and I agreed, and showed them   
   >>their listing showing the option for faster delivery time, and my   
   >>payment for the faster delivery time, and they refused to acknowledge   
   >>the screenshots from their own website.  I never got a refund for the   
   >>shipping difference, and they never acknowledge that they screwed me.   
   >>   
   >>Unfortunately the world has gotten to the point where sometimes you have   
   >>no choice but deal with dishonest soulless if not outright evil   
   >>corporations like Amazon, Ford, and Alphabet, or do without.  You have   
   >>to choose the one that screws you over in a way you can tolerate best.   
   >>   
   >>I find myself having no choice, but order some things from Amazon.  I   
   >>can find them elsewhere sometimes for a lot more money and a lot more   
   >>lead time, but in business both of those things matter.   
   >>   
   >>During my recent air dryer upgrade I decided to upgrade everything.   
   >>Stainless braided outer lines for all my flex lines, assorted fittings,   
   >>bigger badder pre and post filters, and ... stuff.  In order to get   
   >>several pieces in any reasonable time and price I had to order it from   
   >>Amazon.  My wife gets a lot of household stuff from Amazon, so of course   
   >>we have a "Prime" account.  Whatever that means.  I used to have a   
   >>business account, and it didn't mean anything really.  Anyway, in order   
   >>to find items that would deliver next day I selected "Prime" listings   
   >>and looked for next day (or two day) items.  I did not sort by price.   
   >>There were cheaper prices on Amazon, but not with next day delivery.  Of   
   >>course local industrial suppliers would say, "We can get it for you,"   
   >>and online industrial suppliers were either much more expensive or much   
   >>longer lead time or both.  Anyway, I would find spec items listed as   
   >>next day delivery, add them to the cart, and then look in the cart to   
   >>see they had changed it to 2-5 days delivery.  At one point I added   
   >>every single spec item, checked the cart, and deleted all those that had   
   >>changed delivery times.  It was the only way to find those that actually   
   >>had next day delivery instead of the BIG FAT LIE.  Since no job ever   
   >>goes to plan around here I wound up doing this three different times,   
   >>and I experienced it every single time.   
   >>   
   >>In my opinion Amazon has gas lighting you deliberately BAKED IN to their   
   >>software.  "Oh, no.  See in your check out it said you wouldn't get it   
   >>for 2-5 days."  You thought you ordered next day delivery items, BECAUSE   
   >>YOU DID, but before check out they change it.   
   >   
   >You might wish to try McMaster-Carr.  Their stuff is always   
   >satisfactory, and shipping time is correctly estimated.  They do not   
   >compete on low low price.   
   >   
   >.   
   >   
   >Joe   
      
      
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